re: THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME:
>>>IMHO, the most overlooked group that doesn't even make the overlooked list is Jan & Dean. They had solid (and #1) hits in several eras and styles. Baby Talk. Surf City. Their comedic approach (T.A.M.I. and the Batman comedy album). (Phil) >>>Actually, there have been quite a few votes cast for Jan and Dean amongst our readers ... and personally, for all that's been written over the years regarding Jan Berry's "musical genius", I'm a little surprised that they HAVEN'T been inducted yet. Maybe it's the novelty songs that have made their rightful place there seem a little bit doubtful??? I, for one, absolutely agree that there should be a spot for these guys in The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. (kk)
Wow, that's nice to read!!! What song is it of theirs where the ending is prolonged and the drummer goes chaotic?! "Surf City"?
"Linda" is a favorite, too, nice HQ sound.Some like rare stereo, some like unedited versions, some like alternate versions, some like studio talk, some like hearing count-downs. Me? I like all the above, including HQ sound!
John
Hi, Kent,
Sorry, have been away from the FH activities for a week or two. Missed the announcement of the Rock Hall nominations. For my two cents worth, I'm good to go with Dr. John, Alice Cooper, Neil Diamond, Darlene Love and Donna Summer.
But those nominating folks are so far behind with the 'legends' to even think about the LL Cool J's, Beastie Boys, Bon Jovi's, and a few others. Just by putting them in nomination they're adding insult to injury.
Nashville songwriting legend Harlan Howard was right on the money:
"You don't induct the students before you induct the teachers."
I mean, come on ... Laura Nyro over Brian Wilson? Joe Tex over Johnny Rivers? Chic over The Crickets, Paul Revere and The Raiders, Chicago, Jan & Dean? Make Tom 'wait(s).' How about Quincy Jones!
And then you go to the Rock Hall site and they have enough gall to ask for 'donations?' You mean they want us to perpetuate this farce? Give me a break!
Fred Vail
Treasure Isle Recorders, Inc.
"Music City, USA"
Hi Kent,
Congratulations on the newsletter you post. I may not read every minute of it but I always start the day with a quick glance and try to keep up with all that is going on in the world of Oldies. In particular all the writings about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, which is a passion of mine. As a child of the 50's and 60's, its always a kick to see some of the old timers being honored and here is hoping that they finally recognize Neil Diamond this year.
I also would like to let you and your readers know about some special programming that I and my good friend Justin Cippolini are involved with.
Justin and I are on the air every Thursday night counting down our favorite 100 songs from the 50's, 60's and 70's. Because Justin is 21 and I will be 64 shortly, we give the listeners a unique perspective on some of those great tunes from way back. This past Thursday, we announced our selections 56 through 44 as the countdown continues. To say we are the Siskel and Ebert of Oldies would be a stretch, but you get the idea. We keep it informative, light and breezy and we think your readers would enjoy what we are doing.
Justin and I also do our own shows weekly with mine being on Sundays from 8 PM to midnight EST and Justin's being on Monday evening from 9 PM EST to 12 midnight. We also open a corresponding chat-room for listeners to add their comments and be part of the shows. The links are listed as follows.
To join in the chat: http://www.njaj.chatango.com/
and to listen in: http://www.live365.com/stations/papadoronday?play=1
Thanks,
GOHAWKSGO (Mark)
Happy to pass this info along. (And JUST in time to let people know about tomorrow night's show ... sounds like there are still PLENTY of great songs coming up in the countdown ... so check it out!) kk
Tom Waits is merely a cult artist?
Laura Nyro is merely a writer? (She was a dynamic performer.)
Dr. John's nomination is strictly a result of his affiliation with Ahmet Ertegun?
Disco is rock and roll?
Donna Summers and Chic pop artists, as in popular music, but it ain't rock and roll.
But yes, it is the Jann Wiener Hall of Fame. (spelling intentional)
John in Chicagoland
Hi Kent,
I saw this article via an about.com newsletter and thought I'd pass it on to you.
I'm sure many of these artists have been mentioned on the forgotten hits list before, but it may bring forth a few that haven't.It's a list of folks that could be but haven't ever been nominated for induction.
You're saying, "another list?"
Bill
http://oldies.about.com/od/oldieshistory/a/rockhallcastout.htm
Yes, many of these artists have come up again and again and again as being Deserving And Denied ... but it IS interesting to see how long some of these artists have been eligible and how many times they've been overlooked ... yet every year The Hall seems hell-bent in inducting as many "newbies" to the list as possible. (Kinda like what Fred Vail / Harlan Howard said above ... "You don't induct the students before you induct the teachers"!)
Another site we've mentioned several times is:
Click here: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame of the Future - News, Analysis, Voting & More - Future Rock Legends
Browse around long enough and you'll begin to assemble a play-by-play for each and every year of this farce ... not that they don't get it right MOST of the time ... but every time they pick a "head-scratcher", they over look two dozen TRULY deserving artists in the process. And, contrary to what's been going on quite often lately, I think I'd institute some sort of ban that states: "Before you double and triple induct the SAME artists, make things right with all the OTHER deserving acts that you overlooked and ignored for SO long!!!" (kk)
re: HOW ABOUT THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME?:
Hi Kent!
Thought you and your readers might enjoy this article:
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LAUNCH OF NEW SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME GALLERY AT THE
GRAMMY MUSEUM® IN LOS ANGELES SET FOR OCTOBER 2010
Exhibit Opening to Be Marked with Special Events:
10/19 – Ribbon-Cutting and Songwriter Legends-in-the-Round
10/20 - An Evening with Jimmy Webb
10/21 - Master Class with Barry Mann & Cynthia Weil
Los Angeles, October 4, 2010 - Songwriters Hall of Fame Chairman & CEO Hal David, The Recording Academy® President / CEO Neil Portnow and Executive Director of The GRAMMY Museum® Bob Santelli announced jointly today that a new Songwriters Hall of Fame Gallery will debut at The GRAMMY Museum (800 West Olympic Boulevard, Los Angeles) this October. The launch of the new SHOF Gallery will be marked by a series of special events highlighting the contributions of songwriters to our nation’s culture and the relationship between the worlds of songwriting and recording. The SHOF Gallery will feature video highlights from annual SHOF Awards & Induction Dinners, as well as information on all SHOF inductees and honorees. There will also be interactive songwriting collaboration kiosks which will permit Gallery visitors to try their luck at writing songs.
The opening activities will commence with a ribbon-cutting ceremony on Tuesday, October 19 at 6:15 pm, hosted by Hal David, Bob Santelli and Neil Portnow, and attended by songwriting and recording dignitaries. The ribbon-cutting ceremony will be followed by a Songwriting Legends-in-the-Round performance at the Museum’s Clive Davis Theater from 7 to 8:45 pm, featuring a stellar gathering of Songwriters Hall of Fame inductees performing their hits: Hal David (“Raindrops Keep Fallin’ on My Head,” “What the World Needs Now Is Love”), Lamont Dozier (“I Can’t Help Myself,” “Baby Love”), Mac Davis (“In the Ghetto,” “Baby, Don’t Get Hooked on Me”), Nickolas Ashford & Valerie Simpson (“Ain’t No Mountain High Enough,” Ain’t Nothing Like the Real Thing”), and Paul Williams (“We’ve Only Just Begun,” “The Rainbow Connection”).
On Wednesday, October 20 from 8 to 9:30 pm, Jimmy Webb will be up close and personal at the Clive Davis Theater in a one-on-one interview conducted by journalist Paul Grein. Webb, also a Songwriters Hall of Fame inductee, and the writer of many hits, including “MacArthur Park,” “By the Time I Get to Phoenix,” “Wichita Lineman” and “Up, Up and Away,” will punctuate the interview with selections from his catalogue.
The GRAMMY Museum’s Clive Davis Theater will also host the final special event of the SHOF launch week on Thursday, October 21 from 8 to 9:30 pm – a Master Class with one of the great songwriting duos in Pop music history, Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil, also Songwriters Hall of Fame Inductees. Together, the long-married couple have written such hits as “You’ve Lost That Lovin' Feelin', "On Broadway," "Soul And Inspiration" and "We Gotta Get Out Of This Place," among dozens more.
All three events will be attended by members of the music industry and area high school and college music students. A LIMITED NUMBER OF SEATS FOR EACH EVENT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC ON A FIRST COME-FIRST SERVED BASIS. REQUESTS FOR TICKETS SHOULD BE MADE VIA EMAIL TO info@songhall.org. PLEASE INDICATE WHICH EVENT YOU WISH TO ATTEND.
Commenting on the SHOF Gallery at The Grammy Museum, Hal David said: “This is the start of the realization of our longtime dream of a bricks and mortar presence for our Hall of Fame. We are most grateful to our friends at The Recording Academy and The GRAMMY Museum for this opportunity to give physical expression to the Songwriters Hall of Fame in Los Angeles, one of the country’s premier music cities and home to so many SHOF inductees. I know that visitors will find the Gallery to be both enjoyable and educational. Special events like those celebrating our launch are designed to bring the men and women behind the songs before the song-loving public, and we look forward to more in the months and years ahead.
"The Songwriters Hall of Fame has long paid tribute to those creators who have written some of the most iconic and prolific songs of all time and who are one of the foundations of the music industry," said Neil Portnow, President/CEO of The Recording Academy. "We are proud to help them realize their dream of a physical presence to recognize these music makers by housing the Songwriters Hall of Fame Gallery in our GRAMMY Museum, and highlighting the contributions of songwriters to our nation's culture."
"As an institution that explores all genres of music as well as the creative and recording process, The GRAMMY Museum is a natural home for the Songwriters Hall of Fame Gallery," said Robert Santelli, Executive Director of The GRAMMY Museum. "We are privileged to showcase the many songwriters that the Songwriters Hall of Fame honors and celebrates who have written the soundtrack of our lives and of history, and this is a perfect addition to our existing exhibit that spotlights songwriters and their writing process."
About The Songwriters Hall of Fame:
The Songwriters Hall of Fame celebrates songwriters, educates the public with regard to their achievements, and produces a spectrum of professional programs devoted to the development of new songwriting talent through workshops, showcases and scholarships. Over the course of the past 40 years, some key Songwriters Hall of Fame inductees have included Desmond Child, Loretta Lynn, John Sebastian, John Fogerty, Isaac Hayes and David Porter, Steve Cropper, Dolly Parton, Richard and Robert Sherman, Bill Withers, Carole King, Paul Simon, Bob Dylan, Billy Joel, Sir Elton John, Bernie Taupin, Brian Wilson, James Taylor, James Brown, Curtis Mayfield, Hal David and Burt Bacharach, Jim Croce, Phil Collins, Alan and Marilyn Bergman, Jimmy Webb, Van Morrison and Cy Coleman among many, many others. The Songwriters Hall of Fame was founded in 1969 by songwriter Johnny Mercer and publishers Abe Olman and Howie Richmond.
-- submitted by Bob Merlis
Bob had since sent me a couple of other articles related to this ceremony ...
Songwriters Hall of Fame Gallery to open in the Grammy Museum in L.A.
-- Jim Bessman
The Songwriters Hall of Fame (SHOF), which was established in 1969 to honor the creators of the most beloved songs from the world’s popular music songbook, has taken a major step in achieving its goal of having a physical entity in which to do so. A new Songwriters Hall of Fame Gallery will debut later this month at The Grammy Museum in the L.A. Live complex in Downtown Los Angeles. The grand opening will involve a series of special events highlighting the cultural contributions of songwriters and the relationship between the areas of songwriting and recording.
The SHOF Gallery will feature video highlights from annual SHOF awards and induction ceremonies, as well as information on all SHOF inductees and honorees. Additionally, interactive songwriting collaboration kiosks will allow Gallery visitors to try their hand at songwriting with Hall of Famers like Hal David and Desmond Child -- the first two collaborators scheduled participate. Hal David, of Burt Bacharach & Hal David songwriting team fame, is SHOF chairman and CEO.
"This is the start of the realization of our longtime dream of a bricks and mortar presence for our Hall of Fame," he says. "I'm thrilled with the location, because the Grammy Museum represents the recording end of the creation of music, and we're the writing end. So it puts us both together--as it should be. But it's only the beginning--the dream has just begun to pay off!"
Up until now the SHOF has had a Virtual Museum at its songwritershalloffame.org web page; it displays inductee exhibits and other sections highlighting the induction ceremonies and "Songwriters Friends," i.e., singers.
"Now we'll have many exhibits, and a lot of history on film that I think is really sensational," continues David, who will host the Oct. 19 ribbon-cutting ceremony with Recording Academy president/CEO Neil Portnow and Grammy Museum executive director Bob Santelli. The event will be attended by songwriting and recording dignitaries, and will also feature a Songwriting Legends-in-the-Round performance at the Museum’s Clive Davis Theater--an event featuring a stellar gathering of SHOF inductees performing their hits and including David, Lamont Dozier, Mac Davis, Nickolas Ashford & Valerie Simpson and Paul Williams.
On Oct. 20, SHOF inductee Jimmy Webb will be interviewed by journalist Paul Grein in the Davis Theater, and will also perform selections from his hit catalog. And on Oct. 21, a "Master Class" conducted by the legendary SHOF songwriting husband-and-wife team of Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil will take place in the theater.
"Special events like those celebrating our launch are designed to bring the men and women behind the songs before the song-loving public, and we look forward to more in the months and years ahead," concludes David. Adds Santelli, "We are privileged to showcase the many songwriters that the Songwriters Hall of Fame honors and celebrates who have written the soundtrack of our lives and of history, and this is a perfect addition to our existing exhibit that spotlights songwriters and their writing process."
The SHOF was founded by Johnny Mercer and music publishers Abe Olman and Howie Richmond. It numbers well over 300 inductees including the varied likes of John Fogerty, Isaac Hayes and David Porter, Bill Withers, Carole King, Paul Simon, Bob Dylan, Billy Joel, Sir Elton John, Brian Wilson, James Taylor, James Brown, Bruce Springsteen, Curtis Mayfield, Alan and Marilyn Bergman, Van Morrison, Kris Kristofferson, Dolly Parton and Cy Coleman.
The organization also develops new songwriting talent through workshops, showcases and scholarships.
Songwriters Hall of Fame set for Grammy Museum
Ribbon cutting set for Oct. 19
By CHRISTOPHER MORRIS
Cleffers will get their due when the Grammy Museum installs the Songwriters Hall of Fame Gallery on Oct. 19.
Exhibit at the L.A. Live facility highlighting contributions of writers and tunesmithing's relationship with recording will be launched with a series of special events.
The SHOF Gallery will include interactive writing collaboration kiosks and video highlights from the hall's annual awards and induction ceremonies.
The SHOF was founded in 1969 by cleffer / Capitol Records co-founder Johnny Mercer and publishers Abe Olman and Howie Richmond.Org's chairman-CEO Hal David said in a statement, "This is the start of the realization of our longtime dream of a bricks and mortar presence for our Hall of Fame.
The Oct. 19 ribbon-cutting ceremony will be followed by an in-the-round performance at the Grammy Museum's Clive Davis Theater. Participants will include several SHOF inductees: Hal David, Burt Bacharach's longtime collaborator; Motown stalwarts Lamont Dozier and the team of Nickolas Ashford and Valerie Simpson; Mac Davis; and ASCAP prexy-chairman Paul Williams.
Venerated writer Jimmy Webb ("MacArthur Park," "By the Time I Get to Phoenix," "Wichita Lineman") will sit for an interview / performance session with journalist Paul Grein at the Davis Theater on Oct. 20.
On Oct. 21, venue will feature a master class by tunesmiths Barry Mann and Cynthia Weil ("You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'," "On Broadway").
And this just in from Artie Wayne ...
Kent ... How ya doin'?
Congratulations to Dennis Lambert and Brian Potter for being nominated for induction to the Songwriter’s Hall of Fame! http://artiewayne.wordpress.com/2010/10/12/congratulations-dennis-lambert-and-brian-potter/
I don’t have to tell you that political ad campaigns on all sides are getting nasty as it gets closer to the election. While opponents, like primitive apes, are hurling turds of discontent at each other, only one man has come forth with a plan to bring America together! That man is Jon Stewart, host of The Daily Show” on Comedy Central ... but what he needs is an inspiring theme song! http://artiewayne.wordpress.com/2010/10/12/jon-stewart-wtf-how-can-you-have-a-march-without-a-theme-song/
Regards,
Artie Wayne
http://artiewayne.wordpress.com/about-artie-wayne/
re: THE HIT PARADE HALL OF FAME:
And, I would be remiss if, on the subjects of Hall Of Fames, I didn't encourage you to hop on over to The Hit Parade Hall Of Fame Website and cast your votes for your favorites amongst this year's nominees. (Yes, at The Hit Parade Hall Of Fame the votes of the fans actually DO count and help determine which artists are inducted each year ... so don't miss YOUR chance to be heard ... and be sure to check out the incredible list of artists already inducted!) kk
Click here: Welcome To The Hit Parade Hall of Fame
(Seriously ... where else are you EVER going to have the chance to cast your vote for The Chipmunks?!?!? This is incredible ... and yes, they got MY vote!!!)
