GL: Yeah, when we found out that I was going into
the service, Snuffy (Record Producer Snuff Garrett) said, "Let's just go in and cut what I think can all
be singles", so we recorded like four or five songs and just put them in
the can and just released them while I was overseas.
kk: Well, that definitely kept things goin'!
GL: Yeah, right.
kk: Now did you do any entertaining when you were
in the service, or no?
GL: No, they wanted me to get a band together and
go around and play USO clubs around the country and stuff and at that time I
didn't want to be anything special … I didn't want to BE special … I just
wanted to be one of the guys that had to go thru everything that you have to go
thru … I didn't want any kind of favoritism … and thank goodness I thought that
way. 'cause I gotta live with all these
guys! And if I would have been shown any
kind of favoritism it would have been a real drag … so I said, "No thank
you, please just give me a job" and so they stuck me in the supply
room. (laughing)
kk: Yeah, but that probably made it a heck of a
lot easier in the long run overall!
GL: Yeah, it probably did, actually, you
know. I mean I just had the foresight to
understand that if you're pointed out as something special and you're getting
favors and this and that, it just would not have been a good two years.
kk: So when you came back, obviously the music
scene had changed quite a bit … '67 … one of the reasons I focused on '67 is
that just really seemed to be the year of change … EVERYTHING changed.
GL: Oh man, did it ever … yeah, that was it …
Jimi Hendrix … Janis Joplin … and I'm going, you know, "Oh my God, where
do I fit into this?" And then when
I got out of the service I said, "Snuffy, what are we gonna do" and
he said "Nothing - there's no market for you."
kk: Oh wow!
GL: Just like that … boom! I mean, pie in the face. So that's when I really started not liking
him too much because he could have come up with something … I mean, he ran
Liberty Records … Al Bennett was the President and The Boss and all that, but
Snuffy … he would do anything that Snuffy said … so Snuffy was actually in
charge. And if he wanted to do something,
he could have, so I was pretty upset about that.
kk: Well SO many things changed … it was such a
volatile time …
GL: It was, it really was.
kk: Think
about all of the guys who were HUGE, top of the charts artists until The Beatles
hit … and then all of a sudden they couldn't even get played on the radio
anymore.
GL: That's exactly
right … and I didn't think of that until YEARS later … and it's absolutely true
… and the guy that worried the most was Elvis!
kk: FIfty years later, tho, and you're still
doin' it, man … I mean who would have EVER thought!
GL: Oh my God … NEVER! We've done 52 years so far … and that's the
best gift I could have EVER been given.
I'm truly blessed.
kk: And you're still havin' fun … and the folks
are havin' fun watchin' it … you can't ask for anything better than that, you
really can't!
GL: No, no … and it's true … ALL the people we
play to are just SUPER good people … they're probably the same people we played
to in the '60s!
kk: (laughing)
No, I think you've picked up a couple of generations since then (lol) …
'cause I've gotta say, this is infectious music … there's just something about
this music that spans every age group … and as they discover it … I remember
watching my kids grow up whenever they'd have a birthday party or something,
they would still play the music of the '60's … didn't matter what era it was …
it was still that feel good music of the '60's.
GL: Ah, yeah … that's cool … you know, people
tell me that all the time at our shows … "Oh my God, where is music like
that now?" And I say "Well,
you know, I don't know the answer to that one but thank you for saying
so."
kk: One other thing from '67 that I wanted to ask
… and this fact totally surprised me … "This
Diamond Ring", which is one of my FAVORITE records of all time, was such a
HUGE, huge hit when it first came out … but did you know that it didn't actually go gold
until 1967. Does that seem right to
you? Kinda odd? I mean, that record was HUGE … BIG #1 Hit.
GL: Yeah, that's right … I think that's because
it got to #1 too fast … that's what I think.
It went up the charts SO fast … like maybe five or six weeks … that it
didn't have time to sell all that until later on.
kk: That could be.
GL: That's what I think anyway. Ever since 1965, I've got five "Diamond Ring" gold records, and three of all the others … so they keep
coming because these songs have continued to sell.
kk: Wow -
that's great!
GL: I love it!
kk: Now do you still get royalties on any of this
stuff?
GL: Yeah, sure … oh yeah, we made a GREAT deal
with Liberty Records … a lifetime deal!
kk: Well, that's just awesome … because a LOT of
guys don't!
GL: Oh, I know, I know … somewhere in their
career when their popularity kinda sinks a little bit, they sign things back
over to the record company, and that's the mistake right there.
kk: Well, I appreciate you taking some time today
to talk about some of this stuff, it means a lot … please follow along as we relive 1967 this year in Forgotten Hits ... and feel free to chime in at any time with some "fly on the wall" memories.
GL: Oh sure, my pleasure … any time you want to
do this, just shoot me an email or give me a call.
A rare shot of Gary in his Army Uniform - supplied by Gary Lewis!