Hey, Buddy ...

re:  The Surf Ballroom Winter Dance Party:  
Our buddies The Cadillac Casanovas are off to Clearlake, Iowa, for the annual Surf Ballroom Winter Dance Party ... they'll be appearing this Friday Night (January 30th) ... full details below ...   

Winter Dance Party - Sock Hop & backing the LA Party Dolls

Surf Ballroom & Museum

Friday, January 30th

Sock Hop: 7:00 - 8:15 pm

LA Party Dolls: 8:30 - 9:45 pm                                   

460 North Shore Drive,

Clear Lake, Iowa 

We're headed to Clear Lake, Iowa,to be a part of the biggest Winter Dance Party around! It's a four-day show full of memorabilia, dance lessons, musical performances, kids shows, special luncheons, and even wedding / vow renewal ceremonies! On Friday night, we'll be performing for the Sock Hop, which will include Dance & Costume Contests. Grab those poodle skirts and saddle shoes! After our performance, stick around ... we will be backing the LA Party Dolls for even more dancing fun. Big Sandy and his Fli-Rite Boys are also going to be there, too ... sure to be a fantastic night of music and dancing! Also, experience VIP treatment and walk the Red Carpet upon entry to the Surf on Friday night. 
For tickets and information, click HERE. 
www.surfballroom.com

www.blackbeehive.com (LA Party Dolls website)

www.bigsandy.net (Big Sandy's website)   

Also on hand ... Chris Montez!!!  (Here's a look at HIS upcoming itinerary) ...   

Hello, Kent! 
A while back I told you that  would send info on Chris’ concerts.  
He will be at The Surf Ballroom Clear Lake Iowa next weekend for the Winter Dance Party

Thursday, January 29th - Saturday, January 31st, 2015

Doors open at 6:30 p.m. nightly 

Scheduled to appear: Frankie Avalon, Lou Christie, Bill Haley Jr. & The Comets, The Crystals, Brian Hyland, Chris Montez, Tommy Allsup, Whitesidewalls, Big Sandy & His Fly-Rite Boys, L.A. Party Dolls, the Cadillac Casanovas, John Mueller’s Winter Dance Party

Chris will then be in a festival in Spain February 5, 6, 7, and 8 - Torremolinos, SPAIN

He also has a show coming up in Belgium but I don't have any details for that one yet.

Chris Montez will be part of a February, 2016, cruise concert series with some other great artists ... and he is working on some other plans which will be announced in the next few weeks.

Thank you -

Pam Dixon

Media Coordinator

https://www.facebook.com/ChrisMontez1  

On a related note  (well, sort of) ... 

Howdy!

I had the opportunity to attend the "Winter Dance Party" show at the Willowbrook Ballroom on Saturday night.

It's a tribute show featuring Buddy Holly, Richie Valens and Big Bopper imitators (not sure if that is the right term).

This show has been touring for 15 years and the performers are amazing. Until he died two years ago, the Big Bopper's son portrayed his father.

Have you ever heard about this revue or seen it?

Unbelievable show. Incredible four-piece band that worked their asses off, including one of the best saxophonists I've ever seen.

All three performers were top-notch. I can't say how truly good they were.

That said, the Willowbrook Ballroom is a dinosaur from a couple generations ago and is a dump, to be kind.

The crowd was something to be seen. 50's music fans are quite different form 60's fans.

Damn, these people were ancient! For the most part, they were dressed like people I've never seen before, but

their enthusiasm was tremendous. It looked like a sock hop at an assisted living facility!  
Thank you -

Steve Sarley

LOL ... sounds like a fun time!  Will have to watch for that next year!  (kk)

And, finally, we've heard from LJ Coon, who's looking into the plane crash that occurred that fateful night the music died ... here are some of his questions pertaining to this on-going investigation.  (If you hare interested in contacting LJ with pertinent information regarding this tragedy, I have included his email information below.) 

Dear Kent: 
My immediate interest are ... 
Touching base with Jerry Dwyer, the man that was there ... he has stated that he loaded the aircraft (N3794N) on February 3, 1959 ... 
This was a 90 minute flight To Fargo, ND ... how much fuel was loaded on board? 
Who fueled the aircraft that day or evening? 
How much fuel was determined to be needed? 
How much fuel was on board? 
Who made this decision? 
Why were the Fuel Gages not mentioned in the original CAB report? 
Why was there no mention of ANY fuel in the wing tanks? 
No mention of Fuel Smell? 
No mention of Fuel Caps secured? 
No mention of any Danger from Spilled Fuel at the impact area? 
No mention of Fuel danger (even as the wing laid their next to the fuselage)? 
Who did the weight and balance? 
When the customer called from the Surf Ballroom...was it determined at that time how many passengers would be involved? Who was responsible for asking or receiving this information? Someone had to have asked this information (for the weight and balance) 
Was the weight and balance determined from the initial call / conversation? A drastic change took place with the new weight that was involved when the original passengers list changed to two new passengers, which would have added several hundred pounds MORE than originally planned.   (Richie Valens was a 200 pound Male and The Big Bopper was a 250 pound Male ... they were both seated in the rear of N3794N.  Roger's weight was 165 pounds and Holly's weight was easily another 165 pounds.  To this figure, you add in the amount of fuel weight ... then add in the luggage weight.  This places N3794N really close to it's Gross Weight, if not exceeding it! 
Was the original weight and balance calculated with the original intended passengers weight for this flight?  (The last minute change to include Ritchie Valens and The Big Bopper would have added several hundred additional pounds) 
Were the passenger side rudder pedals removed ... as to not invite any possible accidents or accidentally over controlling of the Aircraft from the passenger side (which was Buddy Holly's side)? 
With the passenger side rudder pedals in place, an accidental sharp push on the right rudder pedal may have occurred if the passenger turned to converse with those in the rear of the plane.  
What about the inherent problems that Beechcraft was suffering with the 1947 Bonanza 35 V-Tail? 
N3794N was a 1947 Beechcraft Bonanza-35 with a HISTORY of inflight problems.  I know that the NTSB mentioned that there was no inflight structural damage ... BUT ... is this a cover-up so-to-speak ... that included yet another V-Tail incident, along with a weight and balance problem, inviting a decision to off load as much fuel as possible??? When was the Sperry Horizon Instrument installed?  (Was it the night of the flight ... or did the pilot have adequate time days before and flights before to become familiar with this instrument?  
Pilot Roger Peterson was at the very airport he had flown in and out of "so many times".  Roger would have flown out and about this airport at night under multiple different conditions.  In other words, he had to be very familiar with ALL directions of this airport inbound and outbound.  
Roger had 128 hours in N3794N ... and 58 of those hours were with Dual IFR. 

(There could have been a 3,000 foot brick wall out in the Northwest just beyond the crash site ... the fact remains that Jerry Dwyer saw the lights of his aircraft slowly descend out of sight, just a few miles from the airport.) Roger would flown that area MANY times at night and in IFR training as well.  Losing reference to the horizon five miles from the airport? ... Well, that seems to be completely out of character and inconsistent with this experience flying out of this airport! 
As far as the weather, ANYONE could have driven out 5, 10, 15 miles and asked, "Did you just have a snow shower?"   Were there any snow showers reported within 5 to 10 miles at 1:00 a.m.?  2, 3, or 4 a.m.?  WELL!  
The NTSB Subpart C—Board Reports §845.41 Petitions for reconsideration or modification contains particular goals the applicant has to meet, for the NTSB to consider re-opening this "Cold Case".  (I have written to the NTSB and asked for their Cold Case Investigative Unit to open a new and thorough investigation into this accident.)  I have been encouraged by the NTSB to file form Subpart C—Board Reports §845.41 Petitions for reconsideration or modification.  
The aircraft had at least 90 minutes of fuel on board and there was no fire.  
The CAB were descriptive as to the condition of many instruments, but there was no mention of the fuel gage, the amount of fuel in the engine, fuel in the tanks or fuel on the ground.  
I've heard it mentioned that Iowans believe there was some kind of commotion on board the aircraft N3794N ... I would invite the theory that Buddy Holly, sitting in the right front seat had Twisted around to his Left for some reason to face the back area / back of the plane passengers.  In doing so (and not realizing), his right foot would have stepped heavily on the Right Rudder Pedal sending N3794N Sharply To The Right, thus setting up a struggle to correct an already heavy work load Pilot Peterson was already dealing with. Finally, do you know if Jerry Dwyer has ever written his book?  
Kindest Regards -  
L J  
L J Coon  
starrtrac6@aol.com

Yowzah, LJ ... that's a lot to digest ... but clearly you've given this a CONSIDERABLE amount of thought.  I know we have a number of Buddy Holly fans who have poured over a serious amount of facts and theories over the years regarding this unfortunate and fatal incident ... perhaps somebody out there can fill in a blank or two for you in this regard.  (Meanwhile, a few of YOUR questions might spark them to ask a few more of their own!)  We'll get back to you should we hear anything ... you please do the same!!! (kk)

Originally, we were going to run this piece on February 3rd, the anniversary of "the day the music died" ... but then we received THIS piece of news from LJ, telling us that the story was breaking thanks to some new media coverage by The Pilot Tribune ...

So we moved our story up a week in the hopes of drawing some more attention to this new investigation. 

I know that over the years there have been HUNDREDS of theories and investigations into the events of that fateful, tragic night ... a select few have revealed some new facts we weren't aware of the past 50+ years ... but most have proven to be nothing more than theories and speculations by people who simply weren't there, in some cases trying to rewrite history as we know it.  I don't know that we'll ever REALLY get the complete story as to what went wrong that night ... and LJ's approach simply adds more questions (but no answers) to the puzzle.  However, since he does seem to be getting some mileage out of this ... and is prompting authorities for more investigation into this "cold case" ... and we were are right upon the 56th anniversary of the fatal crash ... we figured we'd throw all of this out there and let YOU guys decide what is and isn't pertinent information.   

UPDATE:  This just in ...  

Apparently LJ has taken his questions and theories to the news media, trying to hunt down some answers.  Here is one such report we received last week ...    

The NTSB Reexamination of The Mason City accident of February 3, 1959    
Dear News Professionals:     
Please take the time out of your very busy day to review the following, and consider offering your readers this information and invite them to support The NTSB Reexamination of The Mason City accident of February-3-1959.  
I have a simulated weight and balance for N3794N February 3, 1959, 1947 Bonanza 35 V-Tail, I would like to send you in addition to the following:

The simulation outlines the conditions that the aircraft N3794N may have been flown under, including the fact that the original engine was swapped out in 1952, ( The new/reconditioned engine added an additional 22 pounds to this aircraft )
This and the total weight and balance picture...placed this aircraft 100 to 150 pounds Outside the CG.  
Kindest Regards, 
L J 
L J Coon  
starrtrac6@aol.com 

Could this new investigation clear Buddy Holly pilot?

Tuesday, January 20, 2015
 

By DANA LARSEN / Pilot-Tribune Editor

Roger Peterson

A flight expert is appealing to the National Transportation Safety Board for a new investigation into the Iowa crash that killed rock and roll pioneer Buddy Holly - an investigation that could clear the name of the 21-year-old pilot from Alta who flew the Beechcraft Bonanza on February 3, 1959, dubbed "The Day the Music Died."

New England resident L J Coon, pilot, aircraft dispatcher, FAA test proctor, worked with the Transportation Security Administration and with the FAA.

After finding online stories the Pilot-Tribune had done on the pilot and the case, Coon contacted the Pilot Tribune and said he sees key information missing in the original investigation.

Coon said he has been in contact with the National Transportation Safety Board's cold case unit about the possibility of a new investigation into the crash, and has been encouraged to file a petition for reconsideration / modification of the 1959 findings.

Coon's research implies a couple of possible explanations for the crash that were not considered at the time.

One is that the Peterson's plane hadn't been fueled.

There was no fire at the crash site, and no mention of fuel on the ground, he says, although the plane should have carried 234 pounds of fuel, enough for the 90 minutes in the air and more. While other gauges were mentioned in the report, information on the fuel gauges was conspicuously missing, along with any mention of whether there was fuel in the wing tanks, in the engine, or whether fuel caps were secure. None of the stories from the time mention any smell of fuel at the scene.

Coon wants to know who, if anyone, had fueled the plane for the flight, and why there was no mention of fuel at the crash site.

Another possible scenario is the weight and balance of the small plane, which if loaded with three passengers, luggage and a full complement of fuel must have been near, or over, its allowable weight limit, he claims.

The plane was chartered by the Surf Ballroom after Holly became frustrated with winter bus travel, to go from his last gig in Clear Lake to Fargo, North Dakota, where he would be picked up for his next gig not far away in Minnesota.

Band member Waylon Jennings planned to accompany Holly, but gave up his seat to an ailing J.P. "Big Bopper" Richardson. With one seat left, a coin toss gave it to 17-year-old opening act performer Ritchie Valens. Both singers died with Holly and the pilot when the plane went down in a field about five miles from the Mason City airport where it had taken off.

Coon wants to know who calculated the weight and balance for the trip, and whether they knew at the time of the call from the Surf how many passenger would be on board.

With Holly and the pilot each barely over 165 pounds up front, and Richardson and Valens totaling perhaps over 420 in the rear plus their belongings and fuel, the balance could have been compromised, he feels.

He also wonders if, when the additional passenger weight became evident, if someone may have offloaded some fuel at the last moment to lighten the flight.

While the original crash report blamed pilot error as the primary cause, and weather conditions as a secondary cause, Coon thinks there is reason to question both conclusions.

The 1947 Beechcraft Bonanza fuselage had a history of in-flight issues, he said, and he questions whether newly-installed Sperry attitude gyro instrument had been properly tested, and whether the "V tail" that had been fitted to the plane worked properly.

Finally, Coon addresses rumors that there was some kind of "commotion" among the men on the plane shortly after takeoff. After a handgun reportedly belonging to Holly was found in the field months after the crash, there were also rumors that it may have gone off accidentally, disrupting the flight. One book on the subject claims that one witness who had seen the wreckage claimed there was a bullet hole through the back of the pilot's seat, and that the Mason City newspaper had reported that two chambers of the six-shooter pistol were empty when it was found, but no evidence of a shot occurring during the ill-fated flight has ever been produced.

Coon theorizes that if Holly, in the front passenger seat, had twisted to his left to face the rear passengers, his foot could have struck the right rudder pedal, sending the plane veering sideways and forcing pilot Peterson to struggle to correct the aircraft while already dealing with a heavy workload. The pedal was placed so close to the passenger's seat by the manufacturer that they were sometimes removed to avoid just such an accident, he indicates.

Some other reports theorize that Holly and Richardson had attempted to switch seats while the plane was in the air, based on the pattern of ejection of the victims, but that can never be proven or disproven.

Coon finds it difficult to believe that Peterson, with four years and over 700 hours of flight experience, would have failed moments into a routine flight, essentially flying a shallow dive into the ground while thinking he was climbing. "Roger would have flown out and about this airport at night, under multiple different conditions. He had to be very familiar with all directions of this airport in and out," and had 128 hours of experience in that particular aircraft, he said.

Weather conditions the night of the flight were not as dangerous as commonly believed, he feels. They were expected to deteriorate as Peterson neared Fargo, but witnesses and weather records indicate that there was no snow at the time and place of takeoff. A misconception may have arrived as snow moved in later overnight, lightly coating the crash scene.

According to Coon, the owner of the air service that Peterson worked for, Jerry Dwyer, always strongly disputed the findings of the 1959 investigation, noting that Peterson was expert with the plane and all other models the service used, and had flown across the country with no problems.

He quotes the owner as saying, "What got me is they said he was not familiar with this airplane, which is a crock. If you drove your car out to California and to new York and Florida a few times, you would probably be familiar with how the lights worked and a few other things."

Coon had hoped to speak to Dwyer before filing his case, but said he found that the now-elderly man was too ill to be interviewed.

In an earlier recorded interview, however, Dwyer had said that Peterson requested to make the flight, and wanted it "in the world's worst way." Dwyer insisted the cause was not weather, and said that visibility was eight miles at the time of the take-off, with a ceiling of around 3,000 feet - clear enough that he could see a taillight on the plane, which he said is the size of a person's little finger, from the airport more than four miles away, before it disappeared. Dwyer could not reach the plane by radio, and the next morning traced the flight plan route in another plane, discovering the wreckage.

Whatever he believes did cause the crash, Dwyer hasn't been saying, implying that the information would hurt a lot of people. He wanted to write a book himself and was saving his opinions for that.

Dwyer did reveal several years ago that the wreckage of the plane still exists. He said he saved it as evidence in fear of future lawsuits, but that after people damaged his building trying to break in looking for crash souvenirs, he moved it to an undisclosed location.

Coon would like to confirm whether the wreckage still exists as it had been found at the crash site, it could provide some answers in a new investigation. Modern technology would allow for a more complete study, and he hopes that whatever information the plane owner has been holding all these years could better determine what Peterson faced on a frozen night over rural Iowa.

Almost 56 years after the crash, the performers are as beloved as ever. With a career of only a year and a half, Holly is described by critic Bruce Eder as "the single most influential creative force in early rock and roll." His works and innovations were copied by the likes of The Beatles and The Rolling Stones, and exerted a profound influence on popular music.

Still today, versions of the Winter Dance Party are performed in Iowa and elsewhere.

The pilot, who also lost his life, meanwhile, was all but forgotten for decades.

"He was a young man who built his life around flying," the Civil Aeronautics Board reflected in its official report following the crash. He had begun flying at age 16, had his license just after graduating high school, and by 21, had over 700 hours of flight experience, and a year as a charter flight pilot and flight instructor under his belt.

The eldest of four children, Peterson grew up in Alta and had married his high school sweetheart, Deanne Lenz, the September before. They had just established a home in Clear Lake, not far from the Mason City airport. The career he was passionate about seemed assured.

Peterson was found still in the cockpit of the ruined plane, with the bodies of the three singers strewn in the 500-foot long path of debris.

For the rest of their lives, Roger Arthur Peterson's parents, Arthur and Pearl, who continued to live in Alta, hoped that their son would be remembered in the same breath with the more famous personalities lost in the crash. They received letters of condolence from the families of Holly and Valens. While long lines of adoring fans attended Holly's memorial, a quiet Iowa funeral was held for the pilot, and a small marker in a Storm Lake cemetery denotes his grave site, etched with a tiny plane.

Some have remembered - an international group of Holly fans in the 1990s started to present a music scholarship to local students in the pilot's name, as they had in the home areas of the rock 'n' roll pioneers. A six-foot monument was erected at the Surf Ballroom in 1988 - remembering all four men lost. Peterson's parents and widow there met the survivors of all three of the lost performers, gathered for the first time. A memorial tree to Peterson was planted at the crash site. His role in the tragedy is also recalled in movies and biographies of each of the performers.

One online memorial site to Peterson has hundreds of comments from people all over the world, which are still coming in at a steady pace.

On what would have been his 71st birthday, one visitor wrote, "May you always be soaring above the clouds!"

"You are most likely the one person's name that day that no one remembers, but you did your best," another wrote.

"When people think of 'the day the music died', they forget that you were flying the plane. Know that you are truly remembered, and I hope that you are flying with the angels!" added another in 2008.

Coon isn't sure what a new NTSB investigation will accomplish.

"At this time I am not sure that any of the current findings and reported information over the years will clear pilot Roger Peterson. More so, overall inviting a larger picture of all the contributing factors to be examined."

Just prior to going to press this morning, LJ supplied some new facts turned up by his investigation and asked us to share them with our readers in the hopes that more people will come forward with ideas as to how to better dissect this case some 50 years on.  (New research ... shown in bold maroon type ... comes from Donna L. Cleaves)   

The following is a simulated weight and balance for N3794N February 3, 1959,  1947 Bonanza 35 V-Tail.  The 1947 Bonanza 35 V tail was the only Bonanza that was not weighted front or rear.

By changing out the original engine of N3794N in 1952, with a Reconditioned Continental Model E-185-8 (The Heavy case serial 8, added 22 pounds extra to the Bonanza 35 V tail N3794N)    

Weight and balance Mock scenario of N3794N February 3, 1959, is as follows ...   

Pilot left front seat 165 pounds (Pilot Roger Peterson)  

Right seat front passenger 175 pounds (Passenger Buddy Holly)  

Rear left seat passenger 195 pounds (Passenger Ritchie Valens)  

Rear right seat passenger 220 pounds (Passenger Big Bopper)  

Luggage / Baggage  60 plus pounds (Estimated Luggage amount)  

39 Gallons of fuel total capacity / 234 pounds   

N3794N - Would N3793N's weight and balance have been under, within or outside the CG of the 1947 Bonanza 35 V-Tail (Reconditioned Continental Model E-185-8, which is 22 pounds heavier than original) to accomplish a normal flight characteristic.  

With the N3794N simulated weight and balance mock scenario for February 3, 1959 flight the planned flight is "Way outside the CG" weight and balance by 100 to 150 pounds. (Now ... let's place some luggage / baggage in the compartment!)  

The passengers arrived at the airport about 0040 and after their baggage had been properly stowed on board, the pilot and passengers boarded the aircraft. Pilot Peterson told Mr. Dwyer that he would file his flight plan by radio when airborne. While the aircraft was being taxied to the end of runway 17, Peterson called ATCS and asked for the latest local and en route weather. This was given to him as not having changed materially en route; however, the local weather was now reported as: Precipitation ceiling 3,000 feet, sky obscured; visibility 6 miles; light snow; wind south 20 knots, gusts to 30 knots; altimeter setting 29.85 inches. 

A normal takeoff was made at 055 and the aircraft was observed to make a left 180-degree turn and climb to approximately 800 feet and then, after passing the airport to the east, to head in a northwesterly direction. Through most of the flight the tail light of the aircraft was plainly visible to Mr. Dwyer, who was watching from a platform outside the tower. When about five miles from the airport, Dwyer saw the tail light of the aircraft gradually descend until out of sight.   

The 1947 V-tail Bonanza 35's center-of-gravity envelope is relatively narrow, and loss of control with aft CG could be a contributing factor.  When the center of gravity or weight of an aircraft is outside the acceptable range, the aircraft may not be able to sustain flight, or it may be impossible to maintain the aircraft in level flight in some or all circumstances. Placing the CG or weight of an aircraft outside the allowed range can lead to an unavoidable crash of the aircraft.  When the fore-aft center of gravity is out of range, the aircraft may pitch uncontrollably down or up, and this tendency may exceed the control authority available to the pilot, causing a loss of control. The excessive pitch may be apparent in all phases of flight, or only during certain phases, such as take-off or descent. Because the burning of fuel gradually produces a loss of weight and possibly a shift in the center of gravity, it is possible for an aircraft to take off with the center of gravity in a position that allows full control, and yet later develop an imbalance that exceeds control authority. Calculations of center of gravity must take this into account (often part of this is calculated in advance by the manufacturer and incorporated into CG limits). Few aircraft impose a minimum weight for flight (although a minimum pilot weight is often specified), but all impose a maximum weight. If the maximum weight is exceeded, the aircraft may not be able to achieve or sustain controlled, level flight. Excessive take-off weight may make it impossible to take off within available runway lengths, or it may completely prevent take-off.  

Excessive weight in flight may make climbing beyond a certain altitude difficult or impossible, or it may make it impossible to maintain an altitude.    

Note: 1947 Bonanza 35 V-Tail placement of the landing gear switch, right side of the throttle quadrant has led to a significant number of gear retractions when the pilot really intended to raise the flaps.   

The above is intended to invite The NTSB "Cold Case" Investigative Unit to reexamine the Mason City accident of February 3, 1959?      
Kindest Regards  
L J 
L J Coon  
starrtrac6@aol.com   
Research: Donna L. Cleaves

Can you help LJ fill in a few more of the blanks?  If so, please contact him at the email address shown above.  Meanwhile, a quick search of The Forgotten Hits Website turned up these articles on Buddy Holly published during recent years:   
http://forgottenhits60s.blogspot.com/2009/02/forgotten-hits-readers-remembers-day.html http://forgottenhits60s.blogspot.com/2012/02/february-3rd.html

http://forgottenhits60s.blogspot.com/2011/07/ouch-dion-buddy-holly-controversy-raves.html

 

50 Year Flashback - January 26th, 1965

Here's a look at what was popular down in Nashville, Tennessee, on this date in 1965, according to the WKDA Good Guys Survey.

Joe Tex holds down the #1 spot (for at least the second week in a row) with his latest "Hold What You've Got".  (What HE's got is the #1 Record!!!  And hold it, he did!)

Being Nashville, we do see a little country slant to this week's chart ... Billy Edd Wheeler has the #4 Record with "Ode To The Little Brown Shack" ... but for the most part, this list reflects the sounds of the day ... still big on The British Invasion (records by The Searchers, Petula Clark, The Beatles, Gerry and the Pacemakers and The Zombies make up a good part of The Top 20) ... and artists like The Righteous Brothers, The Beau Brummels, The Newbeats, Tommy Roe and Roger Miller are also making their mark.  (The coolest part of radio in the '60's was that nobody ever gave a second thought to hearing all of these artists played back-to-back, side-by-side ... today this wouldn't even be a consideration ... everything has to have "the same sound" where each and every record literally blends into the next one.  Oldies Radio has the opportunity to "remember" what it was like to feature all these great artists at the same spot on the dial ... but rarely strays from their "tried and true" list of 300 songs either.  Too bad ... but exactly why Forgotten Hits has decided to extend this "Flashback" series another year ... to look back, reflect and remember just how good this music was back in the '60's ... even if radio today has filed most of it away forever.)

The top debut on the chart this week belongs to Roger Miller with "King Of The Road", certainly his most "serious" song to date ... and an immediate classic.  It's interesting to see songs like "The Boy From New York City" by The Ad-Libs, "This Diamond Ring" by Gary Lewis and the Playboys, "My Girl" by The Temptations and "The Jolly Green Giant" just first premiering on the chart this week ... after we've already seen them near the top of the charts in other cities featured earlier this month.  This helps explain why some records never fared as well nationally as we remember them ... because although they were indeed huge hits, they never made the impact at the same time in all of the major markets, thus diluting their overall impact on the charts.

The Forgotten Hits "Pledge Of Allegiance" to Paul Evans / And Music Appreciation Society Continues:

I've gotta tell you ... even after fifteen years of doing Forgotten Hits, I'm STILL surprised by which topics trigger our readers' hot button ... I would have NEVER expected this to be one of them ... but I'm happy to see the folks on the list expressing their opinion ... 'cause that's what we're here for!  

Chet Coppock's comments about Paul Evans' 1959 Top 10 Hit "Seven Little Girls Sitting In The Back Seat" is still sparking responses from some of our readers ... and this time, from Paul himself!!!   

(While I appreciate all your passion, please keep in mind that Chet wasn't necessarily attacking Paul Evans in particular ... he didn't even WRITE this song ... he was simply verbalizing his views on songs in general that stick in our craw ... and let's face, we've all got our own lists.) 

Apparently, Paul Evans still has a lot of loyal, appreciative fans out there ... as mentioned previously, he's been a Forgotten Hits Member for YEARS now ... and we're the first to qualify that EVERYBODY has (and is entitled to) their own opinion ... and we've always encouraged our readers to voice their's right here in our forum.  (What's that old saying???  One man's steak is another man's spam???  No??? Hey, I think I just invented a brand new catch-phrase!!!) 

Anyway, read on ... and enjoy ...    

Kent,   
It should be noted that Paul Evans, a gifted songwriter, did not write "Seven Little Girls (Sitting In The Back Seat)."  The writers of that hit were Bob Hilliard and Lee Pockriss.
Ronnie Allen   
And a pretty formidable team of songwriters they were, too.  These guys (both together and apart) had a hand in writing "Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka-Dot Bikini", my first 45 and a #1 Hit for Brian Hyland, "Johnny Angel", a #1 Hit for Shelley Fabares, "Catch A Falling Star", a MAJOR Hit for Perry Como, "Any Day Now" by Chuck Jackson (written by Bob Hilliard and Burt Bacharach!) and "Our Day Will Come", a #1 Hit for Ruby and the Romantics.  These are some BIG TIME hits and '60's classics ... I guess they were just having a little fun when they sat down and wrote "Seven Little Girls Sitting In The Back Seat" for Paul Evans!!! And Paul Evans is no slouch when it comes to writing hits either!  Elvis recorded FIVE of Paul's songs (including one of MY favorites, "I Gotta Know" as well as "The Next Step Is Love", one of Elvis' early '70's "comeback" hits), "When" for The Kalin Twins and "Roses Are Red" for Bobby Vinton.  (kk)

 

Recapping a few from yesterday ...     

I don't know Chet Coppock, and he's certainly entitled to his opinions, but Paul Evans is an incredibly successful songwriter.  
When "Seven Little Girls Sitting In The Back Seat" was a hit, it was 1959, an  era for novelty records.  "The Chipmunk Song" was the # 1 hit for the first two weeks on Billboards' Hot 100 chart.  Then in March "Charlie Brown" by The Coasters hit # 2 and The Chipmunks were back with "Alvin's Harmonica" at # 3.  That May, TV actors Edd Byrnes and Connie Stevens saw their novelty hit with "Kookie, Kookie, Lend Me Your Comb" climb to # 4.  The Coasters' "Along Came Jones" came and went during the summer of '59, but not before it made it to # 9.  Writer / producers Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller wrote and produced The Coasters to a third Top Ten chart hit in October with "Poison Ivy".  And in November of '59, when Paul Evans "Seven Little Girls" climbed to # 9, radio and TV DJ Wink Martindale's spoken word novelty hit (although it wasn't supposed to be funny) "Deck of Cards" was at # 7.Paul Evans certainly doesn't need me to defend him.  I'd be more than happy with the royalties Paul has received over the years for writing "Roses Are Red". The fact is, Paul's written a half dozen songs that Elvis Presley recorded, a # 5 hit for The Kalin Twins in 1958, "When", and songs that have recorded by Johnny Tillotson, LaVerne Baker, Frankie Lymon, Jackie Wilson, The Coasters (there they are again), Jim Reeves, Jimmy Dean and Reba McEntire. 
He wrote the song "Happiness Is", which became a hugely successful jingle for Kent cigarettes in the '60's.Novelty records are fun.  They're not meant to be serious.  And they're pretty much a dead genre these days. 
My personal favourite Paul Evans song (that he recorded himself) is "Happy Go Lucky Me".  It's infectious.   
Doug Thompson in Toronto  

 
Hi Kent -    
THANK YOU for "defending" Paul Evans' tune "Seven Little Girls".  It was a favorite of my late Mother!!!!! 
Keep up the G R O O V Y** work ...
**What would Chet Coppock think of "Treat Her Groovy, Take Her To A Movie" by Ronnie Rice / New Colony Six??? LOL     
Carolyn     
Actually Chet was probably right there in the studio with them when The New Colony Six recorded that track ... he was their roadie at the time!  (lol)  kk

Kent,   
When you mentioned Paul Evans, I immediately thought of a record he came out with in 1961 on Carlton Records, said record being AFTER THE HURRICANE. I had to get it out and play it. Don't know if that record by him has ever been discussed or mentioned in FH.  
Larry Neal  
Scroll down ... you'll find it below!  (kk)  

Paul Evans is an under-appreciated singer / songwriter who espoused the joy and innocence of the fifties. I can't speak to the others ... and certainly Chet is allowed his preferences ... but I disagree with his choices.  
Charlie OFD   

And a couple more new ones ... including something from Paul Evans himself!   

Chet Coppock is certainly entitled to his opinions, as is everyone else.  Each of us could come up with our own list of hits we can't stand and a few of mine are among Chet's.  I'll bet, though, that some that send me lunging for the mute button are among Mr. Coppock's favorites -- and vice versa.  That's just the way it is with all of us.   
While most of my favorites are good-time rock, I'm also attracted to records in other genres.  Hopefully everybody is.  One sign of musical maturity, I believe, is when you no longer like or dislike something simply because you've been told it's "in" to hold that opinion.  Instead, you prefer make up your OWN mind as to if a particular record speaks to and for your heart or not.    
Paul Evans recorded "Seven Little Girls" as a demo which turned out so well that it was released as a single.  Was it a good record?   Ask all the people who'd never heard of Paul Evans before but loved his performance so much that they bought enough copies to propel that particular 45 into the Top 10 in the fall of 1959.  "Seven Little Girls" was not only a major good-time hit then -- landing Paul on "The Ed Sullivan Show" and elsewhere -- but became a much-requested staple on oldies radio for decades afterward.   
As others have noted, Paul Evans' career has incorporated other hits through the decades ("The Midnight Special," "Happy-Go-Lucky Me," "Hello, This Is Joanie," etc.), most of which he recorded himself.  Others were made famous by stars like Elvis and Bobby Vinton.  Paul's written for Broadway and motion pictures and has successfully recorded in a wide variety of styles, from folk and country to gospel and Manhattan Transfer-styled jazz harmony.  Perhaps the best (albeit far from complete) digest of Paul Evans material is his CD "I Was A Part of the '50s."  That title is a bit misleading as while "Seven Little Girls" and the hit he wrote for The Kalin Twins ("When") were, in fact, released in the very late '50s, the bulk of Paul's success has come in the decades since then.  Evans today is very much active and sounds great -- as unlike a lot of stars, Paul has taken very good care of himself and his versatile voice.   
As proof, check out the video of the 2009 Paul Evans Christmas classic "Santa's Stuck Up In The Chimney," which has now been viewed on You Tube more than 1,773.600 times!  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=557tQC86thA   
Gary Theroux  
(Attached:  Paul Evan's Christmas card; "I Was A Part of the '50s" CD cover)

As mentioned before, Paul Evans has been a long-time Forgotten Hits member and supporter ... in fact, we were amongst the very first to break his great Christmas "Santa's Stuck Up In the Chimney" track and video ... as you said, closing in on two million views.  And he's just an all-around good guy!   

Lists like Chet's spur others to develop their OWN lists ... and they should all be taken in good spirit ... there is no right or wrong.  As you'll see below, Paul liked this whole discussion well enough to post it on his Facebook page!!!  (kk)   

Hi Kent -  
First of all, I'd like to thank all the Forgotten Hits members who wrote in to  speak about the virtues of my music career.  I do receive lots of emails letting me know how happy my music has made so many people.  Those emails are flattering, humbling, and they cheer me on an "off" day. I believe that neither "Seven Little Girls" nor I need any defense.  But I will say this: 

"Seven Little Girls" was written by two songwriters, Lee Pockriss and Bob Hilliard, with many years of hit songs to their credits.  It was a hit despite - or perhaps  because - it was banned in Boston, and it was a part of the 60's, when it was fun to be a writer, fun to be a singer, and fun to be a listener. 
Lighten up, Chet.  (Got to make Mr. Coppock feel the Oldies' wrath!)  
I'd also like to thank Larry Neal for mentioning "After The Hurricane".  It was originally meant to be a demo for Elvis and was accepted by Freddy Bienstock.  But my then manager had rights to the publishing and he decided that it should be a Paul Evans Carlton record in 1961.  As you might imagine, my co-writer, Al Byron ("Roses Are Red", "Happy Go Lucky Me") and I were not too happy with him. 
Anyway, here it is:

PS  That crash at the end is a real jawbone of an ass (60's technology) played by the creative drummer, Buddy Salzman, in my home-away-from-home, Associated Recording Studios.  
Meanwhile, with your permission I'd like to pass the "Seven Little Girls" debate on via Facebook and my Oldies DJ list. Thanks. 
Paul Evans

P.S.  Here are some links to my site and my videos that might interest your members:

MY SITE:   www.paulevans.com   Order CDs, read stories from the 50's, biography, discography, an Email link and more.

SOME VIDEOS:

"SEVEN LITTLE GIRLS SITTING IN THE BACK SEAT" (The Dick Clark Saturday show from New York's Little Theater in 1959), given the current discussion.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1cjaheraq8

"PAUL EVANS' CAREER" (My career in 7 minutes)    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYJQvepGiVM

ALL MY VIDEOS:   Including a live version of "Happy Go Lucky Me" (My friend was caught and thrown out of the Westbury theater for taking this short tape), "Hello This Is Joannie", and "Santa's Stuck Up In The Chimney" (fast approaching 2,000,000 You Tube views)     

https://www.youtube.com/user/cd1mp3/videos

 

I'm REALLY psyched.  Thanks so much Kent!

Paul

re:  More On Coppock's Topics:  
Kent, 
Thanx so much for the publicity. May the world be rid of My-Ding-a-Ling.  An expression of sexual angst? How about brain damage? It still hurts me that the rock 'n roll Godfather, Chuck Berry got roped into recording that sucker ... Thank the good lord, Chuck never had to sing "Disco Duck" or any song by Steve Miller.  
Chet Coppock   

Hey Kent,  
Even though I'm friends with a few musicians who played or sang on the C.W. McCall hit, "Convoy", I do think it belongs near the top of Chet Coppock's hit list. We all know the song really was a way to cash in on the CB radio craze and, to make things worse, they made a movie out of it! I could never understand why C. W. (Bill Fries) did the voices of all of the truckers. It sounded like he was talking to himself, or maybe it was his daydream! :-) I remember listening to "American Top 40" when the record hit the top. Casey Kasem said, "The new number one is, and wouldn't you know it? - Convoy!" A follow up record, "There Won't Be No Country Music (There Won't Be No Rock and Roll)", was far better, but didn't make it up the charts like "Convoy". The song had the same theme as "In the Year 2525". I actually was invited to watch them lay down some of the tracks on that one. Bill Fries is a soft-spoken, nice guy, who was an advertising exec. He developed a series of very clever commercials for a baking company, featuring a truck driver, who delivers bread to a truck stop and has an interest in the head waitress. The driver's name was C.W. McCall, and Fries did the narration from the driver's point of view. This led to the C.W. McCall recordings. If you like to listen to music with narration, I suggest you check out some of his albums.  
- John LaPuzza  

Chet, 
For the most part your observations are correct. However I must offer my two cents worth here, as I've often wondered, who signed off on releasing various songs as singles. 
First off, I would think that Rick Dees was as surprised as anyone when Disco Duck took off. Remember at that point, you were in your mid 20's and not your average 45 rpm buyer. Had you been 12 years old then, you might have thought it was a pretty cool song. Rick was able to parlay the song for a ticket out of Memphis to LA. He even later scored a late night talk show, too.  
Both you and Kent missed the obvious piece of Steve Miller nonsense. Gimme Space Cowboy any day over Abracadabra. Who signed off on that one? 
Miss You by the Rolling Stones? Not one of my faves, but what about Do Ya Think I'm Sexy by Rod Stewart? 
And let's not forget classics like Honey, or The Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia, both written by the late Bobby Russell. 
Lastly there's Silly Love Songs. Paul got the silly part right. But again it was your kid sister who bought many of these singles. You (& I) had already aged out. 
For further reference may I suggest looking for a copy of Dave Barry's Book Of Bad Songs. 
Jack Levin  

Loved your controversial comments on some of the songs we all have to know if we ever listened to radio at all.  
1.  Could we please hate someone else other than Pat Boone? And thanx for 'Speedy,' altho that's arguably the most biased song he ever sang. 
2.  I loved 'Convoy' ... it raises a picture of the 70s.  CBs were a big rage in Virginia.  The thought of the possibility of that convoy still sorta excites me, so you couldn't say I hate it, overworked tho it has been. 
3.  'My Ding-A-Ling' was Chuck Berry's (like you said) only #1 song, and his embarrassing worst IMHO.  I already knew and loved 'Memphis' by Lonnie Mack by the time I heard Chuck Berry's version and since I was still not very old at the time and had lost my grandfather, loved the story about the father trying to get in touch with his little Marie, so that's still the favorite of my heart. 
4, 5 & 6.  Didn't mind 'Disco Duck' OR leisure suits, but I also didn't buy either one.  I don't mind Steve Miller or 'Space Cowboy,' or any of his other songs.  They can play 'em all they want.  Always felt sorry for the driver in 'Seven Little Girls.'  And I still like Paul Evans' songs, especially 'Happy Go Lucky Me.' 
7.  I like your Rolling Stones' song mentions.  OK ... always feel sort of guilty that I don't LOVE the RS ... my favorite was the video with Bette Midler and Mick Jagger on 'Beast of Burden,' and I like 'Under My Thumb,'  too. 
The #1 embarrassingly terrible song of all time is 'the stupid cake song' ... 'MacArthur Park.'  I just cringe and I don't care who's singing it ... Richard Harris, Donna Summer, you, me or somebody I pass on the street ... ewwww ptooie!  Not even if they know ALL the words.  I think 'Cara Mia Mine' is icky, too, and Paul Anka's 'Havin' My Baby.'  Oh, phewwwwwwww. 
Thanx for providing a forum for us aging baby boomers determined to stay as shallow as possible in the face of increasingly daunting challenges as people are beginning to notice that we really are (OMG!) seniors in our golden years. 
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