Thursday, July 21, 2022

Thursday This And That (A Very Hastily Put Together Edition!!!)

After all these weeks of anticipation (and a wait of over 35 years!) the much ballyhooed Loggins and Messina reunion show that was supposed to take place last weekend at the Hollywood Bowl had to be postponed … due to Covid!!!

Loggins and Messina (who had a string of hits in the early ‘70’s but then split in the late ‘70’s) last performed together in Los Angeles nearly 50 years ago … and now this past weekend’s show, LONG a sell-out, had to be postponed because somebody in their touring entourage contracted Covid 19.

They promise the date will be rescheduled and those holding tickets will still have a seat for the concert event.  (I have maintained all along that if the duo were only going to do two shows … and in one venue only … they should TAPE the program for future broadcast so that the rest of us can see it, too … or just broadcast the entire event live on Pay Per View or On Demand or something!)

I’ve been fortunate enough to see both Loggins and Messina in concert before … but always SEPARATELY.  Still, it was always an enjoyable show.

EIGHT of their songs made our list of THE TOP 3333 MOST-ESSENTIAL CLASSIC ROCK SONGS OF ALL TIME, led by “Your Mama Don’t Dance,” which came in at #621.

Also placing on the list were “Angry Eyes” (#1078), “House At Pooh Corner” (#1270), “My Music” (#1916), “Thinking Of You” (#2443), “Danny’s Song” #2774), “Vahevala” (#2788) and “Watching The River Run” (#3025).

You can get YOUR copy of the complete 3333 by shooting me an email at kk@forgottenhits.com … it’s as simple as that!

And you can relive parts of the countdown at your leisure here as well …

https://classicrockessentials.blogspot.com/2019/10/the-top-3333-most-essential-classic.html

Kent,

It was announced in our morning paper today that our state fair this year (September 15th – 25th) is going to have concerts including, among others, Foghat and Tommy James and the Shondells. Now to my knowledge and remembrance, I don't remember Tommy James ever having a concert in the OKC area.

Larry

I’m sure he has … but regardless, you owe it to yourself to go.  You will NOT be disappointed.  In fact, you’ll be AMAZED by how great Tommy still sounds.

The man LOVES to entertain … and he hasn’t lost a step vocally in all these years.

And he will crank out his hits during his show, too … all thriller with no filler as they say!  Get yourself a ticket NOW … and then report back to us after the show and let us know what you think.  You are in for a GREAT time!  (kk)

In light of all the news surrounding Carlos Santana of late, it seemed like a great time to run Harvey Kubernik’s interview with the guitar legend …

https://bestclassicbands.com/santana-interview-harvey-kubernik-7-16-22/

Harvey also sent us THIS piece, featuring interviews he’s done over the years with Brian Wilson and Phil Spector …

The Phil Spector and Brian Wilson Connection

By Harvey Kubernik © Copyright 2022    

Over the last few decades, Brian Wilson and his band have implemented songs made famous by Phil Spector’s productions: “Then He Kissed Me”  (“Then I Kissed Her”) and "Be My Baby" on his current 2020 concert tour. 

“The man is my hero,” Brian Wilson told me in a published interview for the now defunct Melody Maker in 1977.   

“He gave rock ‘n’ roll just what it needed at the time and obviously influenced us a lot. His productions … they’re so large and emotional … Powerful … the Christmas album is still one of my favorites. We’ve (the Beach Boys) have done a lot of Phil’s songs: ‘I Can Hear Music,’ ‘Just Once In My Life,’ ‘There’s No Other Like My Baby,’ ‘Chapel Of Love’ … I used to go to his sessions at Gold Star studio in Hollywood and watch him record. I learned a lot …

“We couldn’t produce records like ‘Be My Baby’ with that big sound. We had good engineers and good players. The Wrecking Crew. I had Phil Spector’s players.”  

Brian Wilson was a regular Gold Star visitor and customer for many years. In that room he produced The Beach Boys’ “Be True to Your School,” “Do You Wanna Dance,” “I Just Wasn't Made For These Times,” that featured the initial usage of a  Therimin on a pop recording, “Wouldn’t It Be Nice,” and the original version of “Heroes & Villains” at Gold Star. A version of “Cabin/Essence” earmarked for SMile was tracked. Brian’s father Murry Wilson did his The Many Moods of Murry Wilson on the premises.  “Deirdre” and “Slip On Through” heard on the Beach Boys’ Sunflower, were cut in the historic setting. 

“I asked engineer Larry Levine who was at Gold Star what Phil Spector did with his basses,” Brian explained in a 2007 lunch interview we had.

“Larry said Phil uses a standup and a Fender both at the same time. And the Fender guy used a pick. So, I tried it out at my session, and it worked great! You also get a thicker sound putting the two basses together. I start with drums, bass, guitar and keyboards. Then we overdub the horns and the background voices. Gold Star had a good tack piano.” 

“I’ve always been flattered that Brian continues to say nice things about me and keeps recording my songs,” acknowledged Phil Spector in a 1977 Melody Maker interview I conducted with him inside his Beverly Hills mansion. 

“Brian is a very sweet guy and a nice human being. I’m glad he’s coming out of his shell. I think he got caught in a trap with ‘Good Vibrations.’ I think he got condemned more than condoned. 

“He became a prisoner instead of a poet. He had the plaudits, the accolades, and touched the masses. I know music is a very important thing to him, besides a vocation. It became cluttered the last few years. Your attitude is in the grooves, and it’s a very personal thing. But Brian thrived on competition.  

“I remember when ‘Fun, Fun, Fun’ came out. He wasn’t interested in the money, but a top ten record. He wanted to know how the song would do against the Beatles and if (AM radio station) KFWB would play it. But I never saw Brian as a competitor,” reinforced Spector.  

Phil and I in our 1977 interview discussed "Then He Kissed Me." "That was an experimental record. John (Lennon) told me the Beatles got the idea to use a 12-string guitar (Barney Kessel played) from that record. But I thought it was too spaced out. I was against it coming out. I was gonna can it,” he admitted. 

“I’ve used Barney Kessel all the time for the last ten years. Terry Gibbs on vibes … everybody. The better the talent is around you, the better the people you have working with you, the more concerned, the better you’re gonna come off as a producer, like a teacher in a class.  

“The musicians I have never outdo me. I’m not in competition with them. I’m in complete accord with them. You need the ability, so you hire the best. I have the creativity. I know what I want. 

“I like to have all the musicians there at once,” explained Spector. “I get everything on one track that I need. I put everything on 24 tracks just to see if it’s plugged in. The finished track never ends up on more than one track. I don’t wear a ‘Back To Mono’ button for no reason at all. I believe in it.  

"When you see a Kubrick movie, you tell me how many names you immediately remember in the cast. One, two? It's the same with Fellini, and that's what I wanted to do when I directed a recording. Singers are instruments. They are tools to be worked with. Dion is a great singer. He’s a great talent. I rate him with John, Paul, Elvis, Johnny Cash and Bobby Darin.  

"I always thought I knew what the kids wanted to hear," stressed Spector. "They were frustrated, uptight," Phil continued, " I would say no different from me when I was in school. I had a rebellious attitude. I was for the underdog. I was concerned that they were as misunderstood as I was."

Dave Gold built the equipment and echo chamber at Gold Star. His partner Stan Ross and staff engineer Larry Levine collaborated in developing the heralded Wall of Sound that propelled Spector’s productions.

In 2002, I asked Stan Ross in an interview about the landmark studio.

“It was all tube microphones. We kept tubes on longer than anyone else. Because we understood that when a kick drum kicks into a tube it’s not going to distort. A tube can expand. The microphones with tubes were better than the ones without the tubes because if you don’t have a tube and you hit it heavy, suddenly it breaks up. But when you have a tube it’s warm and emotional. It gets bigger and it expands. It allows for impulse.”  

Larry Levine won a Grammy in 1965 for his work on Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass’ "A Taste of Honey.” Levine engineered albums for Eddie Cochran, The Beach Boys, Sonny and Cher, the Carpenters, Dr. John, and reunited with Spector in the late 70s working on albums by Leonard Cohen and The Ramones.

“I used to have a theory,” Levine told me in a 2002 interview, “and I don’t know if it’s right or wrong, but part of the reason we took so long in actually recording the songs was that Phil needed to tire out the musicians, or they got to the point where they were tired enough so they weren’t playing as individuals. But they would meld into the sound more that Phil had in his head. 

“Good musicians start out and play as individuals and strive to play what Phil wants. As far as the room sound and the drum sound went, because the rooms were small, with low ceilings, the drum sound, unlike other studios with isolation, your drums sounded the way you wanted them to sound. They would change accordingly to whatever leakage was involved.

“As a matter of fact,” Levine continues, “Phil once said to me the bane of his recording existence was the drum sound.  A lot of people attribute to echo to what Phil was doing. The echo enhanced the melding of ‘the wall of sound,’ but it didn’t create it. Within the room itself, all of this was happening and the echo was glue that kept it together.”

During 2010, I asked “Wrecking Crew” veteran and keyboardist/arranger and author Don Randi about working with Spector and Wilson at Gold Star.

“Well, at Gold Star it was the echo chamber. Like, when someone talks about a guy being a ‘natural baseball player.’ Gold Star was a natural studio. It just blended and worked. When you went to Gold Star you just knew you were making a hit record.   

“The recordings have durability because musically and lyrically and the composition and note part were brilliant. There were always great songs. The songs always told a story. The songs in themselves were films. And, especially in Phil’s case, he knew how to write them and how to produce them. And in Brian Wilson’s case, Brian always knew where he was going with it. He may have not known at the beginning, but after a while he had an idea and he developed it. We were there to help him develop it. 

“Look, we all like to hear how our music is being used after we cut it. ‘A Little Less Conversation’ with Elvis [Presley]. I might have made initially $160.00. Local 47 Musician Union contract. Over the years, with all the scales changing, and everything being re-done and re-mixed I’ve made close to ten grand in residuals.  

“Let me tell you why. It’s a very simple reason and most people don’t have any clue. There were a number of people. It started with Phil Spector, then Brian Wilson, and caught on with everybody else, that when you hired us, there was a union contract. So, there was a Local 47 on a contract. And if that contract is there, they can trace it back to who was on the original track. And because of that we get our residuals. Phil, Brian, Jack Nitzsche, Kim Fowley, and Billy Goldenberg on our work with Elvis made it possible, Because, if they could avoid it, they would. But these guys insisted on having these contracts.

“It’s nice at my age to get paid and hear these things again. Kim Fowley calls it ‘mailbox money.’ It’s wonderful. There’s a guy that’s been logging everything and getting everything in order for years, ‘cause it’s an unthankful job. [Rights Activist] Russ Wapensky. You might never hear his name except from me or Hal [Blaine] but Russ logged everything.”   

Here’s a good article on Alice Cooper in today’s AZ paper.

Follow the link below to view the article.

An oral history of Alice Cooper’s ‘School’s Out’ album …

https://arizonarepublic-az.newsmemory.com/?publink=1feebd380_1348551

Robert Campbell

From Chuck Buell …

And for all the jocks on the list …

I think you’ll be able to relate!

Once upon a time, at a Radio Station a long time ago ~~~

I once worked for a know-it-all Program Director who was pretty overbearing and annoying.

During an On-Air Staff Meeting once, he got off on one of his rants about how he was hearing so many small mistakes on the air. And in his over-dominate fashion, he said, “These things shouldn’t be happening unless you’re really stupid. That's probably it!  So, if you think you are stupid, stand up!”

I waited a moment and I stood up.

He glared at me and said, “So, Buell, you think you’re stupid?!

I said, “Not, not at all. I just hate to see you standing up all by yourself.”

After Bob Sirott aired our “Seven Local Hits by Seven Local Bands” on WGN Radio the other day, we got this from our buddy Ray Graffia, Jr., founding member of The New Colony Six …

Bob was our presenter for the IL R&R HOF induction last month and, while chatting with him before the ceremony began, he shared that his favorite song is one of ours, one that, as you well know, I both co-wrote with Gerry and sang, "Can't You See Me Cry!"  Whether what he said was actual fact or fiction, his sharing of this made the evening mean even more to me than the actual honor of induction! 

As for the 1967 chart presented on his program, too bad it was the Tony Orlando song on that chart, one of only two (I think ...) that we released but did not write ourselves (Cadillac, methinks to be have been the other ...) but you are the better one to have a recall of all the singles! 

Blessings, my dear friend,     

Ray

Kent:

I must say that I'm thrilled that Clark Besch included links in The Sunday Comments (07-17-22) to archived vintage UK music newspapers. I was an avid reader of those when stationed at Navcommunit, London, in the late Sixties / early Seventies. By then, the so called British Invasion was fading in America. A lot of great UK hit records and bands from that era never charted here. Even some of the British Invasion groups that were still having hits worldwide were ignored by stateside radio stations. I've always wished that there was some way to access those unique publications again online. I realize some of your readers don't have the associated memories like mine. To me it's a treasure trove for trivia lovers.
Mike Gentry

Definitely some cool stuff there … probably years and years of catching up you could do!  Quite often I pick up copies of those British magazines today that run original articles from NME and others from back in the day … it’s a great way to gain an appreciation to what was going on musically at the time.  Plus, the stories haven’t all been blown out of portion yet because they were reporting things at the time, as they happened.  (I’m reading The Beach Boys one now … great stuff!)  kk

Kent,

So this weekend on Me-TV-FM, The Eyes are going to be having it.

I kind of doubt one pair of eyes will not be represented. I'm thinking of Jerry Wallace's 1961 Challenge record EYES (DON'T GIVE MY SECRET AWAY.) 

I don't believe it charted nationally, but it was a top 10 record here in OKC … barely!

Larry Neal

Ummmmm … no, you won’t be hearing that one.  And I can’t find it charting nationally anywhere … so that was most definitely a LOCAL Hit on your OKC charts!  (kk)

Just before Me-TV-FM kicks off their Eye Tunes Weekend (it all begins during the 7:00 hour on Friday Night), here are a few Eye Tunes of our own choosing …

Some you'll hear ... and some you won't.

It's a special edition Sweet 16 … on the 21st of July!!!

My Eyes Adored You - Frankie Valli

Did You See Her Eyes - Illusion

Don’t It Make My Brown Eyes Blue - Crystal Gayle

Green-Eyed Lady - Sugarloaf

Hungry Eyes - Eric Carmen

Betcha thought Willie Nelson's "Blue Eyes Cryin' In The Rain" was gonna be next!!! (lol)  Gotcha!

I Know A Heartache When I See One - Jennifer Warnes

The Eyes Of A New York Woman - B.J. Thomas

Looking Through The Eyes Of Love - The Partridge Family

(This was a tough call - go with this one or Gene Pitney's original)

Look Away - Chicago (who we're going to see this weekend with Brian Wilson!  TOTALLY diggin' their new album, by the way!)

Sad Eyes - Robert John

The More I See You - Chris Montez

The Story In Your Eyes - The Moody Blues

When Will I See You Again - The Three Degrees

Can’t You See That She’s Mine - The Dave Clark Five

You Won’t See Me - The Beatles (That other popular British Invasion band)

The Future’s So Bright I Gotta Wear Shades - Timbuk 3

Be listening for these … and a WHOLE lot more all weekend long on Me-TV-FM! 

https://www.audacy.com/metvmusic/listen#schedule 

More ME … 

Good Morning, Kent:

We appreciate the major mention today.  Thank you!

Also, when you and I exchanged emails about our TV themes feature (which we’re calling the “Little Screen Gems Weekend”), I neglected to mention that, in addition to themes and theme songs, MeTVFM is also going to be highlighting songs by TV stars.  That means plenty of material by the likes of David Cassidy and the Partridge Family, Bobby Sherman, David Soul, John Travolta, Shaun Cassidy, Shelley Fabares, Vicki Lawrence and many others.

Rick 

Oh man, now I’m REALLY excited!!!  I’ll be we could EASILY come up with a good fifty acts that enjoyed fame on both the tv screen and the pop charts!  

This whole thing airs the weekend of August 5th, 6th and 7th, capped off with a very special edition of “The History Of Rock And Roll,” spotlighting The Greatest TV Themes of All Time.”  (you can use that same Listen Live link above to tune in!)  kk

And, of course, you’d have to include The Monkees on that list …

From David Salidor:  CoastLine: Micky Dolenz, the last surviving member of The Monkees, on music and why he performs (oh - and quantum physics) | WHQR 

 

Chuck Buell here … and I couldn’t help but notice Kent’s recent update in Forgotten Hits pointing out that he hasn’t been mentioned, featured, spotlighted, talked about, sought out or even heard personally on radio as much as he has been, and will be, lately!  

 

>>>All of a sudden, we’re all over the place on the radio again!!!   It IS pretty cool to have SO many new features coming up!  (kk) 

 

But, as he's finding out, handling all those Appearances does have its challenges!


Nevertheless, Congratulations are in order here!

CB ( which stands for “CelebrityWatching  Boy!” ) 

 

Thanks ... I think (?!?!?)