Monday, September 20, 2021

More Chart Talk

Alright Kent! Way to retaliate against 'n' refute the dorks now running the show at Billboard Magazine.  (Or is it BillBORED Magazine???)

I'm sure some of those smarmy, musical history no-nuthins run right to Wikipedia for their mis-information.

We of the Forgotten Hits society know the real reason as to why Drake scores so many (I use the term sarcastically) HITS ... Because of IMMEDIATE MARKETING SATURATION ... Something that was not available or even possible decades ago, thanks (or curses) to technology and brainwashing social media outlets.

I look at my cable TV "music" offerings: 40 channels, nearly all are some specific sub-genre of modern music.  It is all the same crap to my ears.  There is only ONE channel offered called "Oldies" that covers music from the 50s and 60s.  The same 200 songs recycled ad-nauseum. This type of branding is a target assault, IMO. Yet for current music, 40 choices?  BARF.

We're fighting a losing battle as time passes, I'm afraid ... trying to keep what happened in pop music's past on a fair, ACCURATE level and not reduced to reinterpretations or comparisons to justify equality and importance of current popular music performers and artists.

Check out this new updated Rolling Stone magazine Top 500.  I saw a news report while on break at work last night. While I don't really agree with the #1 choice, it is FAR better that a song from the 1960s beats out something from the past 20 years!  I've never even heard most of these "modern" hits! Surprise to me: "Waterloo Sunset" by the Kinks in the Top 20? Great song!

https://news.yahoo.com/rolling-stone-updates-500-greatest-150108023.html

Mike Markesich

You can view the complete Top 500 list here ...

500 Best Songs of All Time - Rolling Stone

I haven't had time to dissect the whole thing yet ... but there seems to be a lot of much more modern and current songs on the list this time around ... which makes me wonder how they're able to measure the lasting power and influence when weighted against some of the old stand-bys like "Satisfaction," "Like A Rolling Stone" and the new #1, "Respect" by The Queen Of Soul.  (kk) 

>>>What else have you got to measure things by these days?  (kk)

Very well stated argument on the irrelevance of the Hot 100 today.  Sales and airplay used to be the basis of the Hot 100. 

How many of this week’s 21 Drake Hot 100 charters show up on Billboard's own Radio chart? 

ZERO! 

There are still Top 40 pop charts.  If we're going to compare different eras, we should use the same criteria.  I counted 30 Drake records that made the Top 40 pop chart since his first hit in 2009 ... respectable, but compare that total to some other artists that you've mentioned:

Stevie Wonder: 33

Aretha Franklin: 34

Taylor Swift: 35

The Beach Boys: 40

Rihanna: 43

Mariah Carey: 44

Elton John: 50

Rolling Stones: 52

The Beatles: 68

Elvis Presley: 80

I think the labels, the artists and even the fans are using streaming to manipulate the Hot 100.  It's a game to them and Billboard is enabling it.

Ed #1

 

Kent,

Do you have a Top 200 for 1971 - 1979 using the same formula you used for:

Forgotten Hits - THE TOP 200 #1 HITS OF THE BEATLES ERA, 1964 - 1970

Because I love the way all three publications were used as opposed to just Billboard.  (To be honest, I almost like Record World / Cash Box #1’s better than Billboard’s.)  And Radio and Records joined the fray in October of 1973.

😊

Or any Top 200 for the 70’s?

Thanks for considering.

Eddie Spencer

We’ve talked about doing a COMPLETE ranking of ALL of the #1 Records of the Rock Era, 1955 – 1989, utilizing chart info from all three trades and then ranking them for the purpose of a MAJOR countdown.  In fact, we even went so far as to discuss such a countdown with Sirius / XM (which reminds me … I need to give Lou Simon another call as I’ve got a couple of other ideas to run by him as well!)

It’s a pretty big undertaking … just to complete the ‘70’s (1971 – 1979, since 1970 was covered as part of The Beatle Years) represents another 333 #1 Records.  (1974 and 1975 alone account for 97 of those!!! Things changed rather quickly back then!)

I have already considered using the Radio and Records list to complete the ‘80’s since Record World ceased publication in early 1982.

I’m hoping something like this could still happen.  Biggest issue (as always) is time … but with a radio tie-in, I’d feel a lot more inspired to take on such a challenge.  Let’s see what happens.  (kk)