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Wednesday, May 6, 2009

Gimme Some Lovin'

Some of you may remember a discussion that we had a couple of months back regarding the song "Gimme Some Lovin'" and the fact that, here in America, a group called The Jordan Brothers actually released THEIR version first ... despite the fact that the song was written by Stevie Winwood and recorded by his band The Spencer Davis Group. The question came up, "Could the ORIGINATOR of the song actually "COVER" their own tune."

Here's a quick recap of that piece we ran back in March:

Wednesday, March 11, 2009
More Of What's Been On Your Minds

Scott Shannon's putting together another one of his True Oldies Channel's "Remakes" Weekends ... and this time around, Forgotten Hits and some of our readers have unearthed some REAL gems ... as soon as we get the broadcast dates, we'll let you know ... but there are some NEAT surprises planned. Meanwhile, while researching originals vs. remakes, THIS song came up:

I was listening to Scott Shannon's show last weekend on channel 1340 Reading, PA, when he was playing originals and remakes that might have done better than the originals. "Give Me Some Lovin' written by Steve Winwood, was originally recorded by the Jordan Bros, a band from Schuylkill County, Pa. The record was selling so well that Winwood decided to record it again himself. He had better connections than the Jordan Bros, so his record went national. Just some more rock and roll trivia.
Gary

Neither Scott nor I had ever heard that story before ... nor had we heard the record ... but I did, in fact, find a website for The Jordan Brothers, who made the local charts a few times in Pennsylvania. FH Regular Tom Diehl filled us in on a few more details ... and even sent us the cut to share with our readers. As to how on earth they got a-hold of The Spencer Davis Group's recording BEFORE it was released in America (in time to learn it and cut their own version), nobody seems to know for sure. I made contact with Frank Jordan, one of the original members of the band, but he hasn't responded to me yet ... if we get more details, we'll be sure to share them with the rest of the class. Meanwhile, here's what we know so far:

The Jordan Brothers version was released in 1966 but didn't manage any chart action until after the release of the Spencer Davis Group version the following year, and bubbled under in 1967. How it got into their hands, I have no idea. All I know is the Philips record number that it was issued on is smack dab in the middle of a hundred other 1966 releases while the Spencer Davis version didn't get released on United Artists until 1967. The Jordan Brothers had some much better records than that one, though they didn't manage any decent chart positions with their songs.
-- Tom Diehl

On The Jordan Brothers' official website, we found a 2-CD set of their Greatest Hits ... along with a survey showing their version of "Gimme Some Lovin'" on the Pennsylvania charts. Interesting ... learn something new here all the time!!! (kk)Click here: The Jordan Brothers


I THINK THEY DID THE COVER VERSION ... STEVIE WROTE THE SONG ... SO MOST LIKELY HAD THE ORIGINAL ... WOW ... A PRETTY TITE PLAYLIST IN LANCASTER, PA ... TWO BIG REGIONAL HITS ... THE KIT KATS FROM PHILLY AND THE MAGNIFICENT MEN FROM VEGAS ... MOST OF THE REST STUFF ... BIG HITS ... UNUSUAL FOR A SMALL MARKET BACK THEN ... SCOTT SHANNON

Clearly The Jordan Brothers COVERED the tune if Stevie Winwood wrote and recorded it ... the big mystery now is how they got their hands on it!!! Anybody out there have any information on this? (File it under the "Helping Out Our Readers" category!!) kk

If Stevie Winwood wrote "Gimme Some Lovin'", I don't see how you can really consider any other artist "covering" the song before he did it. Maybe it was a hit in England before it was a hit here or something and that's how The Jordan Brothers discovered it, I don't know, but clearly it's a Stevie Winwood song. Sounds to me like The Jordan Brothers just had a local Philly hit with it.
Dave The Rave

We had a number of Chicagoland acts "covering" Hollies tunes before The Hollies really made much of an impression on the national charts ... because they had access to import albums and such. (The Cryan' Shames ... one of the artists we'll be featuring this weekend ... had planned to release their version of The Beatles' tune "If I Needed Someone" as their first single ... but reportedly George Harrison put the kabosh on that idea after The Hollies' cover version of the same song failed in England. Instead, they broke through with a remake of The Searches' tune, "Sugar And Spice".) Clearly, the American bands were checking the British charts, looking for ANYTHING that would sound enough like a British hit to actually get played on the radio. The Buckinghams took their name as much from Chicago's Buckingham Fountain as they did from Great Britain's Buckingham Palace!!! The New Colony Six were inspired by the first colonies set up here in America who broke away from British rule. And on it goes!
As far as how these bands continued to find songs that most of us casual listeners weren't even aware of, we have to remember that back then it wasn't at all uncommon for the track line-ups to differ between the UK and the US album releases ... so I suppose The Jordan Brothers COULD have heard the song, jumped on it, and released it before The Spencer Davis Group single hit the charts here in America. (Actually, looking at the charts above, they pretty much charted simultaneously!) Again, not all that uncommon back in the wide-open AM Top 40 programming days when a local artist could chart with the same song as a major artist ... here in Chicago, we heard The Mauds' version instead of the classic Sam and Dave version of "Hold On."


A quick check of The British Charts shows the Spencer Davis version debuting on November 3, 1966 ... that's about eight weeks before the same single first appeared on our Billboard Chart. That means that The Jordan Brothers' version was already climbing the Philadelphia chart BEFORE The Spencer Davis Group's single made its first U.S. chart appearance. I can't imagine any other more reasonable assumption ... but again, in the meantime, if anybody can shed more light on this, please bring it on!!! (Who knows ... maybe we'll even hear back from The Jordan Brothers themselves!!!)

The Jordan Brothers


And that's pretty much how things have sat for the past two months.

Then, out of the blue, I FINALLY heard back from Frank Jordan ... who tells us a pretty interesting story. (It would seem that we weren't really that far off track with our "suppositions"!!!) Here's the OFFICIAL word from Frank Jordan himself:

Hi Kent!
I have tried on a few occasions to send this and to no avail. Found out today that I had a computer problem. That being rectified, I pray that this will finally go through.
Artists back in the 50's and 60's relied heavily on the record company's people to come up with a hit for them. This was the case with The Jordan Brothers' band. Upon recieving a phone call from the people at our record company in New York, we packed up our instruments and, along with our father, we went to the Big Apple. The people at our company played a "demo" or demonstration of the song Gimme Some Lovin' for us to hear and approve. We all agreed that we liked the song and agreed to record it. Little did we know that it was the actual 8 track tape we listened to containing Steve Winwood's vocal, organ, a lead guitar, bass guitar and drums. The other remaining tracks were open for any additional accompanyment. We did not know this at the time or how our record company got hold of the original recording. We may never know. Or how the other record company that recorded the other tracks on it got a hold of it. We learned the song, recorded it on that same trip and it was released in three major cities in the U.S. So, we did have the first release in the U.S. and the record took off immediately. It boasted huge sales in three major cities which would make the Spencer Davis version seem like it was a cover. The Spencer Davis version was inhanced with more instrumentation and background voices which gave it somewhat of a "soul sound", a term used back then for a sound produced at Motown records which was very popular at the time. The Spencer Davis version was released and it got immediate attention. It didn't take long for it to take over our version and cover it.
Our apologies for any confusion this may caused to all concerned, but most importantly, to our fans, for any inconvenience or misleading this might have generated.

We thank you all for your interest and that this clears this controversy up once and for all.
Sincerely,
Frank Jordan


So there you have it ... once again, Forgotten Hits comes up with the REAL story. (Jeez, and up until a couple of months ago, I didn't even know that there WAS another version of this tune ... let alone a Philly hit!!!) This means that SOME parts of the country heard The Jordan Brothers' version of "Gimme Some Lovin'" before The Spencer Davis Group version tore its way up to the top of the charts. Amazing!!! (I'd say this makes The Jordan Brothers' version worthy of another spin here today!!!) kk







Wednesday, August 11, 2010

Helping Out Our Readers

re: HELPING OUT OUR READERS:
I have a long lost song I am searching for. It was in the Boston area in the late 50's early 60's. It was called 'The Montreal Express', about the cold weather blowing down from Canada to New England. It was used in commercials for the Boston Gas Company and / or local Oil Dealers to promote their heating solutions.
With this abnormally hot summer perhaps we could use a shot of cold Canadian air.
Love your site and admire all the energy you put into it.
Feels like "Summer In The City" ... 'Walking on the sidewalk, Hotter Than a Match Head'
Keep Cool,
Charlie

I couldn't find a national chart listing for this one ... not even in my CHUM Chart Book. Anybody out there "North of the Border" able to shed some light on this one??? (kk)

>>>I have a question for anyone who grew up in Chicago who might remember: Back in '89, I was at Round Records' closing sale on Sheridan Road. Among the wonderful 45s I picked up there at amazingly low cost was an M- copy of "Little Darlin'" by The Diamonds -- on the black Mercury label, which was already quite a collector's item in the year vinyl officially deceased -- for 25 cents. When did Round Records first open, was it in the 6Ts or the 7Ts? Also does anyone happen to know if Round was connected to the "Round" label (Capes of Good Hope, etc.)? Much appreciated and groove on! (Bob Rashkow)

>>>To the best of my knowledge, there was no affiliation between the record store and the record label ... but let's see what comes back from our readers. (kk)
Hi, Kent.
Hope you are well.I went to Loyola University in Chicago beginning in fall 1981. Round Records was right across the street from my dormitory, and so became the site of many, many visits over the next five years. I bought countless 60s records there in the upstairs "used" section, as well as picking up the occasional album (the first three REM releases, as I recall) from the downstairs "new" section.One thing I recall about Round Records is that the owners were either in the band Mountain Bus or affiliated with them. Mountain Bus released an album in 1971 on a custom label called Good which may have been their own creation. That album, said to have elements of jam and psych rock and country, is now a reasonably valuable ($50-100) collectible. Most of the people who worked at Round were themselves musicians, including Baird Figi of 80s psych band Eleventh Dream Day. Had I been aware of Mountain Bus back in the early 80s I would have wanted to know more about them, asked questions, etc. I miss the store; it was a big part of my musical education.

Stu Shea

Hi Kent ,
There was a group from my N.E. PA area in the mid - to late 60's called Mel Wynn and the Rhythm Aces and later they called themselves The Mel Wynn Trend. They had a pretty big R & B hit with Stop Sign on Wand records, but the later Mercury releases never get heard. If you can dig up any 45's by them and play them, it would be great!
Len

Another one I'm not familiar with ... but we've got a heavy concentration of Philly Readers, so let's see what comes back on this one! (kk)

I recall a few issues back the mention of "The Jordan Brothers". I had forgotten to ask you about another Jordan Brothers band from out in the southwest back in the late 60's. They were fronted by a cat named Little Stevie Jordan who was a monster player. The Jordan Brothers had a big hit called "Aint No Big Thing" which I can't find anywhere. Maybe your master collector would have it in his archives. It was a real good record and can only be found on some of the compilations dedicated to the Latino cruising scene. Those versions are done by others and not the Original Jordan Brothers.
I found this youtube clip of him where he kicks ass on the squeeze box. I didn't know Jerry Garcia had those kind of chops either. My Latino brothers be doin it!

YouTube - Steve Jordan, Carlos Santana, and Jerry Garcia
Alex Valdez

Thanks, Alex. Let's run it up the Forgotten Hits Flagpole and see what comes back! (kk)

Hey, here's one that digs deep ...
Do you remember when Bob Hale opened his East of Midnight Show every night with a Ray Conniff piece?
Any idea what the name of that song was?
Bill
A little before my time ... and WAY past my bedtime!!! (Although I AM one of those who used to listen to Art Roberts' show with my transistor radio under my pillow at night!!!) I asked Ron Smith (who basically told me the same thing!) ... but he ALSO put me in contact with Bob Hale. If we hear back, I'll be sure to pass along the answer to your question.  For good measure, I also asked Clark Weber (who was there at the time), Scott Childers (who maintains that awesome WLS History Website at www.wlshistory.com), Bill Hengels (who has supplied most of the WLS Surveys we've displayed on our website) and Jack Levin (who compiles the Chicagoland Summer Charts for us) to see if any of them can help us nail down this mystery tune.  Nothing to report yet this morning, but watch for this one to pop up again in a future edition of "Helping Out Our Readers".  (kk)
THIS JUST IN:  Ray Conniff did have a minor hit called Midnight Lace back in 1960, but that would be too easy.
Jack
Actually, that just might be it ... and a pretty clever tie-in, too.  Let's run a copy today and see if Bill (or anyone else on the list) recognizes it!  Thanks, Jack!  (kk)



Kent --
A few of your members recently asked about the Four J's (also known as The Fabulous Four) and their song "Here Am I Brokenhearted", a great doo-wop version of the ballad that Johnny Ray originally put on the charts around 1952. We entered an a cappella talent show in NYC back in 1996 and chose to do this song as one of our two songs and we began the song with a barber shop intro as the song was originally done in the 1920s. We ended up putting it on our CD "Heart of Saturday Night" from 1999.
If you would forward this to John (can't remember the other interested member) I would appreciate it.
Thanks,
Danny

Why don't we just share this one with ALL the readers ... there seems to be a real affection for this song amongst the list! (kk)


>>>The Four J's - Here Am I Broken Hearted - 1962 -- I can't claim that I know anything about the group, but my eyes and ears lit up when I heard it in Stereo! Must have been a regional hit!!! I later learned that they're a Philly group! Jerry, Joe, Jimmy and Jeffrey???? Charted? Reminds me a bit of The Bongo Stomp! Who has the master tape!? Great song! (John)
>>>The song "Here Am I Broken Hearted" found its way on to a Jamie Records reissue in 1997 called "A Million $$ of Doo Wop", (Jamie 4002). I have liner note credit on this project. The original release was on 45 on Jamie 1267. I would suggest you contact Frank Lipsius at Jamie Records for information. Jamie Records is still very much in business and would have the master. This group was the original backup vocal group to Fabian. (Clay Pasternack)
Thanks, Clay. Yes, I have the CD, too. I don't believe Frank (at Jamie / Guyden) has the actual session tape (master) for The Four Js - it just sounds too poor. Sadly, not all those CD tracks are from tape, even though it states differently. Notice no mastering or remastering credits appear. It was just nice to hear it in stereo. And with Philly groups / artists, that's a big plus!!Best,
John
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/

>>>I've got a Radio Special coming up with Mark 'Hoss' Amans that will include the music of Paul Revere and the Raiders, the Robbs, Billy Hinsche, The Viceroys, The Who - The Butts Band (Robbie Krieger & John Densmore) on August 7th and 8th --- just to let you know.   (Mason Ramsey / Rock And Roll Heaven)
>>>We ran a few plugs for Hoss' book project a while back here in Forgotten Hits, hoping to get some support from our readers to help him secure a publishing deal ... it's certainly a book that I would like to read. (In fact, we even had some comments from Mark Lindsay and Gary Puckett, whom Hoss had worked with back in the day.) Haven't heard any more as to how that's developing, but we certainly wish him well. (kk)
Hi Kent!
I have been trying to find an email of Dick Dodd of The Standells. I have been having people search for me and I am unable to find anything on him either. I wanted to talk to him about my new book.
By the way, I have a second interview coming up on August 13, 2010 from 7- 9 pm CST. Remember to listen in on the web at www.kkfi.org and click on the button to get the streaming web hookup.
Thanks again,

Hoss
PS: If you haven’t signed the petition to induct the Raiders into the Rock and Roll Hall of fame there is still time. The deadline is Aug. 31 and signatures are desperately needed. Please go to http://www.raidersrockhall.com/Home.html to sign. Thank you
I personally don't have any contact information for Dick Dodd but I know some of our readers have stayed in touch with him. Let me see what I can find out for you. (Readers should respond to me privately.) Actually, I think he'd dig what we do here in Forgotten Hits, too! (kk)


Could you run the original version of Bill Medley's Brown Eyed Woman sometime? One of my listeners was complaining to me the other night that the only version on the internet is the remake. When I checked my collection and the stations, I realized that the only one that I could quickly find was his remake for Curb records from the late 80s early 90s.
The original on MGM records is the best version by far.
This was a big record in a lot of markets. It does not appear that it charted in Chicago. It did get some play in Madison, WI. The original features the Blossoms (Darlene Love) in the background.
Phil - Wrco

My copy comes from the 1989 Rhino Release "Anthology, 1962 - 1974". It is identified here as being MGM single 13959, so I'm assuming it's the take you're looking for. (As I'm not familiar with the Curb remake, I can't honestly say ... but this is the only version I know so I'm guessing it's the right one.) I've never quite understood why Mike Curb, who worked as a pretty big honcho for MGM Records back in the early '70's, then went on to release so many remakes and / or alternate takes on his own label. Worst part about it is that they were never identified that way ... so an unsuspecting public shelled out good money thinking they were getting the songs they remembered growing up with only to find different versions on these CDs. (This was especially true of some Osmonds recordings ... both group and solo work. See the email below) kk

I have to admit, I like many of The Osmonds' hits, and even had one or more of the 45 singles. Some time back I purchased their CD, Osmonds 21 Hits, on Curb Records, 1995. I was always curious why I didn't "rip" any songs from the CD if I liked the music. Yesterday, I finally did. It reminded me why I didn't initially "rip" any songs, since the sound quality is horrendous, to say the least. Their 45 singles on MGM sounded loads better, from what I recall. I was even more disappointed with another Curb Records Osmonds CD that contained remakes - without warning. This is why I cringe at the thought of Mike Curb being willing to issue such putrid sound of a great group, The Osmonds, even being instrumental in their production at the time. I spent close to three hours trying to restore the sound of two songs, "Double Trouble" and "Yo-Yo", just to make them more tolerable to listen to, but they still have quality flaws. The sound quality should knock your socks off, per se'. Who knows ... maybe this is why I never hear any Osmond songs on radio.
Snippets:

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/doublelovin.mp3
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/images/yoyo.mp3
I see no mention as to who did the CD mastering on these. I wish I could target one problem with the sound, but it appears to be compounded, even with careless transfers from tape, if that's what the source was. Maybe a FH reader can recommend a better sound quality CD, containing their US Top 40 Hits?
Thanks, Kent!
Best,
John
http://www.angelfire.com/empire/abpsp/
http://www.uncommonrecordings.com
As mentioned above, I've been disappointed, too, with the sound quality of some of the Curb Records CD reissues ... and don't understand at all the reasoning behind substituting so many of the tracks with inferior versions. I'm hoping that if Mike sees today's posting he will contact us and shed some light on this topic.  (If I'm not mistaken, there were a couple of releases that had an "Original Recordings" banner plastered over the front cover ... yet many of the tracks were STILL outttakes and alternate versions!)
Meanwhile, a recently released two CD set called "Osmondmania!" (on Polydor Chronicles) covers nearly ALL of the group and solo hits in very good sound quality ... so look for that one! (kk)

Thursday, August 19, 2010

Helping Out Our Readers

HELPING OUT OUR READERS:
Hey KK,
One of my listeners on The FLip Side sent me an email to ask if I recognized a song. It's not the normal "cheek to cheek" song by Fred Astaire. I don't have the record, so I'm hoping one of your forgotten hits members will recognize it. See below, and thanks!
Mr. C
I have been searching desperately for a song that was a flip-side of a 45 back in the early 60's (around 1962 or 63). The name of the song is "Cheek to Cheek" and the lyrics I remember are:
Cheek to cheek, I want to dance with you.

Arm in arm (or could be "hand in hand") Just like we used to do.
Day by day, (day for day?) There's no reason for this broken heart.
It was done by a girl group. I thought perhaps it was the flip side of "Tell Him" by The Exciters, but that's "Hard Way to Go" ... so now I'm stumped.
Can you help?
Thanks!
Sincerely,
Liz
Have at it, readers ... let's see what you can come up with! (kk)

Thanks to our FH Buddy Tom Diehl, we've got a number of Mystery Songs to share with you today from our last "Helping Out Our Readers" Page ...
>>>I have a long lost song I am searching for. It was in the Boston area in the late 50's early 60's. It was called 'The Montreal Express', about the cold weather blowing down from Canada to New England. It was used in commercials for the Boston Gas Company and / or local Oil Dealers to promote their heating solutions. (Charlie)

>>>I couldn't find a national chart listing for this one ... not even in my CHUM Chart Book. Anybody out there "North of the Border" able to shed some light on this one??? (kk)
I am sending Montreal Express by Dick Curless, which I believe is what you are looking for ... it was just a commercial, not an actual released single.
Tom



>>>There was a group from my N.E. PA area in the mid - to late 60's called Mel Wynn and the Rhythm Aces and later they called themselves The Mel Wynn Trend. They had a pretty big R & B hit with Stop Sign on Wand records, but the later Mercury releases never get heard. If you can dig up any 45's by them and play them, it would be great! (Len)

>>>We've got a heavy concentration of Philly Readers, so let's see what comes back on this one! (kk)
I don't have much by Mel Wynn but I'll send what I do have. I heard from his fiancee a few years ago when I tried to find Mel to cut a promo for me but she informed me Mel had recently had a stroke and was unable to speak ... I hope he's at least doing a little better by now.
Tom





>>>I recall a few issues back the mention of "The Jordan Brothers". I had forgotten to ask you about another Jordan Brothers band from out in the southwest back in the late 60's. They were fronted by a cat named Little Stevie Jordan who was a monster player. The Jordan Brothers had a big hit called "Aint No Big Thing" which I can't find anywhere. Maybe your master collector would have it in his archives. It was a real good record and can only be found on some of the compilations dedicated to the Latino cruising scene. Those versions are done by others and not the Original Jordan Brothers. (Alex Valdez)
>>>Let's run it up the Forgotten Hits Flagpole and see what comes back! (kk)
Wow! I found the Jordan Brothers tune, not great fidelity but it's available, at least.
Tom



A copy of this one was also submitted by SixtiesOldiesGuy Rich Grunke ... thanks, guys, for putting an end to Alex's long search. (kk)

I have been trying to find an email of Dick Dodd of The Standells. I have been having people search for me and I am unable to find anything on him either. I wanted to talk to him about my new book. (Hoss)
As for Dick Dodd, he is on Facebook (when YOU gonna join??) however he hasn't accepted my friend request yet ... you can pass this on to the person looking to make contact with him:

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1712287744&v=info
Tom

We've had an awful lot of mail lately regarding the song "Here Am I Broken-Hearted" ... particularly the Four J's version ... and we just received the original Johnnie Ray version from our FH Buddy John Madara:
Hi Kent ...
I hope things are good with you. I've always enjoyed the Four Js version of "Here Am I Brokenhearted" ... and the great version by Johnnie Ray with The Four Lads. Warm regards,
John




I have been trying to find info about the Hai Karate Sounds of Self Defense record. I have one in perfect condition and just don't know what to do with it. It always would make me laugh, and I know some of it by heart. Thing is, I have a Mad 'She Got a Nose Job' record, and two Archies cereal box records ... all on cardboard. Any suggestions on what would be a good way to put them to use or what to do with them? Thanks for any info ... even donating would be okay. AH
I still have a complete set of Monkees cereal box singles, too ... and we've featured a couple of the Archies' cardboard record photos in Forgotten Hits in the past. (By the way, I played the heck out of my Mad Magazine "It's A Gas" cardboard single, too as a kid ... and have even featured THAT one from time to time.)


I would think these would be considered quite collectible ... I doubt that too many kids held on to these over the years ... or that they didn't get damaged or torn, thrown out or left behind. Honestly, if you're looking to get rid of them, I think I'd list them on eBay and see what kind of offers you get. (You might want to check eBay first and see what similar items have been going for.) If not, I'm sure MANY of the collectors on our list would be interested ... including ME!!! (kk)

>>>Hey, here's one that digs deep ... Do you remember when Bob Hale opened his East of Midnight Show every night with a Ray Conniff piece? Any idea what the name of that song was? (Bill)
>>>A little before my time ... and WAY past my bedtime!!! (kk)
>>>Ray Conniff did have a minor hit called Midnight Lace back in 1960, but that would be too easy. (Jack)
I never heard back from Bill to see if this was the song he was looking for or not ... but I DID hear from Bob Hale!!! Sounds like we got it wrong ... here's the scoop ... and the tune! (kk)
Hi FORGOTTEN HITS!!!
"S'Wonderful"

I used at KRIB ... WMAY and WIRL ... for brief periods ... until Program Directors said Top 40 stations "don't use theme songs!"
I got by one week at WLS before PD, Sam Holman said at one staff meeting, "Hale ... we don't use theme songs ... can it!" So I canned it!
Bob Hale
PS: What a memory you have!!! I'll bet not one in a thiousand would recall that!
BH

We got some pretty amazing readers here, Bob! And Bill, here's your long-forgotten tune! (kk)


That's the one! If you pick it up from the 1:25 mark to the end, that's what was heard every weeknight at Midnight on WLS to kick off East of Midnight with Bob Hale.
I don't know if Ray Conniff planned it that way, but that closing segment comes in at just a hair under a minute.
It always amazed me how WLS used such MOR and Easy Listening type themes, what with Ray Conniff, the Anita Kerr Singers, etc., to present music by the Isley Brothers, Ray Charles and Don Gardner & Dee Dee Ford. I think it amazes me now more than it did at the time.
Thanks for sending. I'm sure you know about the live version on You Tube. Maybe I was the one that mentioned it.
==Bill

Click here: YouTube - Ray Conniff: 's Wonderful!
"S' Wonderful" was Conniff's first chart hit back in 1957. (It reached #73 in Billboard that year.) Ironically, Brian Wilson also covers this "Gershwin Tune" on his brand new "Reimagining Gershwin" CD, just released this week. Conniff's BIGGEST pop hit came nearly ten years later when "Somewhere My Love" (from "Dr. Zhivago") cracked The Top Ten. Chalk up one more mystery solved by The Forgotten Hits Team ... with special thanks to Bob Hale himself for providing the answer! (kk)

QUICKIE REVIEW: Speaking of Brian Wilson's new CD, I picked up a copy this week. One Sentence Review: For Die-Hard Fans Only. There's not much here that'll appeal to anybody else. That being said, the production and arranging of this material is quite outstanding ... and these are the kind of albums that seem to do well come Grammy time. I'm grateful that Brian is still recording ... and glad to see that he's gotten this tribute to The Gershwin Brothers off his chest. Now it's time to go back to crafting your OWN classic pop album. Clearly, the talent and the passion are still there ... channel that and see where it takes you. You've redone "Pet Sounds" ... you've completed "Smile" ... your homage to "Gershwin Tunes" is complete ... now treat us to something new and TOTALLY Brian.
BEST TRACKS: "I Got Plenty Of Nothin'", an killer instrumental that has Brian Wilson's stamp all over it. Sounding as though it could have been a "Pet Sounds" out-take, this one SCREAMS of Brian's influence. (A couple of other tracks incorporate a sort of Beach Boys feel to them in their arrangement, more so in the song openings than as an actual spirit ... some work, some don't. Hard to believe that the best track on the album is the one WITHOUT any singing ... Brian's whole legacy has been his amazing use and arrangement of vocals over the years!) A strong second would have to be "It Ain't Necessarily So", which follows this one on the album. You'll also find some fun bossa-nova tracks on here ... there just isn't ANYTHING that'll turn your head or appeal to a mass audience. For die-hards only??? Yeah, but most of 'em will love it! (kk)


SPEAKING OF REVIEWS ... Be sure to join us TOMORROW IN FORGOTTEN HITS ... for a review of the brand new Micky Dolenz CD, "King For A Day", his tribute to the music of Carole King!

Tuesday, July 21, 2026

TUESDAY THIS AND THAT

What are the chances???

Fans taking The Magical Mystery Bus Tour thru Liverpool yesterday had a chance encounter with Paul McCartney, who just happened to be driving by in a passing car.

But wait ... it gets even better than this ...

Paul rolled down his window to greet the fans ... and then show them that he was currently face-timing with Ringo Starr at that exact moment!!!

(Photo: Neil Morton, the tour bus driver): 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Magical Mystery Tour is Liverpool’s original Beatles sightseeing tour. Established in 1983 by Cavern City Tours, the owners of the world‑famous Cavern Club, it has played a pioneering role in shaping the Beatles tourism industry, offering scheduled tours to all the key sites in Beatles / Liverpool folklore. 

It had to be a one in a billion chance happening ... imagine being onboard for the momentous occasion!  (kk) 

The new Rolling Stones album “Foreign Tongues” went to #1 in the UK in its second week on the chart.  It became their 15th album to top the British album chart, which ties them with The Beatles for second place on the all-time list.

Wait … what?!?!  SECOND place?!?!?  Who comes in ahead of The Beatles and The Stones on the UK chart???

Would you believe Robbie Williams?!?!

Robbie scored his 16th #1 LP across the pond earlier this year.  (Here in The States, he’s had ZERO #1 LP’s.  In fact, his highest charting album to date, “The Heavy Entertainment Show,” peaked at #100 in 2016.) 

For the record, The Beatles have topped the Billboard Top 200 Albums Chart 19 times, which is enough to lead the pack.  (They also lead the list with 20 #1 Singles.)  The Stones trail them with only nine #1 LP’s:  Out of Our Heads (1965), Sticky Fingers (1971), Exile on Main St. (1972), Goats Head Soup (1973), It's Only Rock 'n Roll (1974), Some Girls (1978), Emotional Rescue (1980), Tattoo You (1981) and Hackney Diamonds (2023).  As I type this, “Foreign Tongues” sits at #7, where it premiered this week.  Now that could quickly change, I suppose, but will it hit #1???  That still remains to be seen.  (kk)

Hi there Kent,

If you were in the Boston area like I was, you would have heard this song a whole lot.  Bend It was a major hit in Boston and both AM top 40 stations, WBZ and WMEX, played that song quite a lot, and it was probably also played on WRKO FM.  But by the time WRKO 680 AM was launched on March 13 of 1967, it would have been a recent oldie.  Anyway, this song was never a rare song to me.

The song entered the charts on WMEX 1510 in Boston the week of December 11, 1966, at #25.  On December 18th, it rose to #15. During Christmas week, it rose to #12. During the first week of 1967, Bend It went all the way to #3, and that was its highest position on the WMEX survey. 

On the chart for the week of January 8, it slipped down one notch to #4.  During the week of January 15, the song dropped to #8.  That was the final week that Bend It was on the charts on WMEX.

On WBZ, the song entered the charts the same week on December 10 at #24.  On December 17, it rose to #17.  On the December 24th WBZ survey, Bend It rose to #8.  On the December 31 survey, it rose to #4.  On the January 7, 1967, survey, the song rose to #3.  ON January 14, it slipped down to #6.  During the January 21 survey, it slipped a couple of points down to #8, which is pretty respectable for a song that had been on the charts for six weeks. It was still hanging on on the WBZ survey the week of January 27 at #18.  It was still on the survey of February 4 at #25. 

Even on February 11, the song was still hanging in there at #27.  Finally, during the week of February 18, Bend It dropped off the charts.

And yet, even though this song was in the top five on both radio stations in Boston, which was a major radio market, it didn't even make the top 100 in any of the three national trade publications. I guess not very many other U.S. cities shared Boston's enthusiasm for Bend It.  This just shows how very different local radio station's surveys were at the time.

During this same time period, both of Boston's top 40 stations were playing a version of Gimme Some Lovin' by the Jordan Brothers which went all the way to #2.  I always liked this version much better than the Spencer Davis Group's version, possibly because I heard it first, but to my ears, it was just a better version.

Now WBZ had a top 30 survey and WMEX had a top 25.  You may be asking yourself, "Why would WMEX want to have five fewer songs on their survey than their competition?”  That's a fair question, but they tied their survey to their frequency of 1510, so they called their survey, the top 15 and 10.  So that's why they only had 25 songs on their survey.

There were a couple of interesting differences between the two stations.  For example, WMEX had the New Vaudeville Band's version of Winchester Cathedral featured on their survey, but WBZ was playing the New Happiness's version. 

Well, for you Bend It fans out there, I hope this has been interesting.

Sam Ward

Due to the heavy competition between our own Top 40 giants, we found that WLS and WCFL often featured different versions of the same songs on their respective surveys.  (The first couple that come to mind are “Son Of My Father” by Giorgio (WLS) and Chicory (WCFL) and “Beautiful People” by Bobby Vee (WLS) and Kenny O’Dell (WCFL).

We did a long feature on The Jordan Brothers 20-something years ago in Forgotten Hits.  It was the first time I had ever heard of them and/or their version of “Gimme Some Lovin’.”  In fact, one of the Jordan Brothers even contacted me about featuring their tune.

I found this after a quick search of the website …

https://forgottenhits60s.blogspot.com/2009/05/gimme-some-lovin.html

And this link will take you to several mentions of The Jordan Brothers (along with quite a few other obscure memories) …

https://forgottenhits60s.blogspot.com/search?q=jordan+brothers

CBS Sunday Morning ran a piece on Freddy Cannon this morning but I have to wonder … is this insane or another huge CBS mistake? 

They played a Freddy song in mentioning his passing on their national Sunday Morning show that I had NEVER heard!  "You Know" from 1959.  Turns out it was the B side of his hit "Tallahassie Lassie," which reached #6.  What the hell did they play this unknown song for him?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDWUE_hNGMw

When I worked with Varese, they did a Freddy greatest hits CD.  I told Cary I could supply stuff, but he said Freddy wanted all mono, he owned the tapes, he controlled the booklet info and everything.  Partly why he seldom allowed his music for CD comps, I suppose.

A good friend sent me what he considered one of Freddy's rarest songs, even ‘tho the 2-sided A side only DJ copies are easily found.

Below attached is a B side very hard to get on 45 and not on CD.  Not sure why as it's good and incorporates his song titles into a look back at Freddy's glory years.  The 45 came out in 1972.  He even works in a couple of his "whoo"s.

The song was written by Michael Z. Gordon, who also wrote "Out of limits" and the oft recorded (Astronauts, Gary Lewis, etc.) cool A side 45, "Main Street"!  Interesting also, MZG was the co-writer of Sagittarius' "Hotel Indiscreet"!  He had no idea where the spoken word part came from in the 45 issue.  Likely due to the success of such in "My World Fell Down."  The LP version did NOT have it.

The A side of the attached is "If You've got the Time," a rewrite of the Miller beer commercial crediting Michael also along with a Miller ad exec for good measure, I suppose.  I think they chose the WRONG A side here.  Song attached.

"Take Me Back," the B-side of his sole 45 on Metromedia

Clark Besch

No telling how they ended up running such an obscure track ... didn't look like it was their intention since the caption under Freddy's picture said "Palisades Park!"  It almost seems like a mistake that nobody on their end caught (or was knowledgeable enough to catch in the first place!)

Freddy was always very proud of the fact that he owned all of his own masters.  That’s why it was such a shock when we uncovered a 78 pressing of his demo recorded BEFORE “Tallahassie Lassie” but using essentially the same backing track.  Freddy didn’t even have a copy in his own collection … so was VERY pleased to be reunited with it thanks to FH Reader Eric Lee.  (kk)

UPDATE:  Clark googled (which is now just an automated A.I. response) the reason for selecting "You Know" for the CBS segment ... and here is the response he got ...

Why did CBS Sunday Morning play "You Know" for their Freddy Cannon tribute?
The song "You Know" was played during the CBS Sunday Morning tribute to Freddy Cannon because of a production oversight by the show's staff, who mistakenly selected it instead of one of his iconic hits. [1]
The Mix-Up
  • Obscure Selection: "You Know" is a largely unknown B-side track from the single release of his famous breakthrough hit, "Tallahassee Lassie." [1, 2]
  • Viewer Backlash: Fans and music historians criticized the segment on platforms like WFMU, pointing out that the show featured a completely obscure song rather than honoring Cannon's massive signature hits like "Palisades Park" or "Tallahassee Lassie". [1, 2, 3]

Odder still that the caption that ran with Freddy's picture said "Palisades Park," which was probably their intended track.  Amazing that no one on staff was sharp enough to catch the mistake before letting it go out on the air.  (That's always been one of my biggest fears ... who's going to ensure that our music is properly presented to the public once all of us are gone!)  kk

During all the years I worked at West Coast Music, Freddy was the sales rep for one of the major labels ... he would come in like once a week or so ... easily one of the nicest guys ever in that business!!!!!

Bill Hayes

Another passing … this from Tom Cuddy …

Joe Melson, 91, Dies; Wrote ‘Only the Lonely’ and Other Hits With Roy Orbison

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/18/arts/music/joe-melson-dead.html?unlocked_article_code=1.y1A.TZsQ.HOpBL704goUQ&smid=nytcore-ios-share

Freddy Cannon (89) & Joe Melson (91) -- two legends gone now.  Despite Joe's great success with Roy Orbison, his composing "Run Baby Run" by Newbeats is better than those.  Joe even had ties to the Kansas group, the Classmen, writing and producing this 1967 B side shown below!

Clark



 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The article above says that Melson wrote over 200 songs with Roy Orbison ... so clearly that is what he was known for ... so I'd consider this one to be a rarity for sure!  (kk)

DJ Bobby Jay Said That Cleveland Still Of The Dubs Died Last Night.

FRANK B.

Kent, 

I have been neglectful in letting you know about Vern Shank of The Cherry Drops and Flagler Beach radio. He has been hospitalized for almost a month now, having been released and readmitted a week ago. His current condition is that he is on dialysis.

His words ... “My kidneys are shot.”  He is also scheduled for open heart surgery as soon as he is stabilized. 

Shelley 

David Salidor sent me this link regarding author Mark Bego …

https://www.thenyindependent.com/music/1708419/mark-bego-qa-village-people-madonnamichael/ 

We’ll be running a very special piece with Mark regarding his following The Jacksons on their Victory Tour … more detail to come!  (kk)

Kent,

Considering YOU are the pied piper of Forgotten Hits, can you in any way explain HOW “Pied Piper” has risen to #4 in six weeks on Super Chart this week?  Don’t get me wrong, the song is OK and maybe top 40 worthy at best, but "Where Were You When I Needed You" is #36 after six weeks (where Pied Piper SHOULD REACH), The Ides Of March are #44, also six weeks in!  I guess when you look at the huge number of novelty songs on the chart this week, it tells us anything is possible.  Maybe, even, The Cryan’ Shames could reach the Super Charts one day!!!  ;)

Clark Besch

The stats are correct … it’s your “guestimation” as to where these songs should land that’s incorrect.

Nationally, “The Pied Piper” peaked at #2 in Record World and at #4 in both Billboard and Cash Box … it wouldn’t be the #36 song in your analogy … “Where Were You When I Needed You” only made it to #26 nationally (again, in Record World) and #28 in Billboard and #33 in Cash Box … so it’s right where it ought to be on The Super Chart.  As for The Ides, what SHOULD have been a Top 40 Pop Classic (“You Wouldn’t Listen) only made it to #41 in Record World, #42 in Billboard and #47 in Cash Box.

As for The Cryan’ Shames, you absolutely WILL see them on The Super Charts in the weeks to come.  (If you look closely, you’ll see that they premiered this week at #98.) Their first chart hit (“Sugar And Spice”) reached #39 in Record World, #49 in Billboard and #52 in Cash Box.  (Odd that ALL of the songs you’re asking about peaked highest in Record World … our Chicago charts must have had a much greater impact in their popularity calculations!!!

Just to keep things on the up and up, I checked each of the weekly charts for these tunes for the week ending July 23rd, 1966, as depicted by this week’s Super Chart and this is what I found:

THE PIED PIPER – BB #4 / CB #5 / RW #3 / SC #4

WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I NEEDED YOU – BB #29 / CB #44 / RW #37 / SC #36

YOU WOULDN’T LISTEN – BB #42 / CB #50 / RW #41 / SC #44

SUGAR AND SPICE – BB #92 / CB #xx / RW #86 / SC #98

All of these tunes seem to rank at a perfect average of the three major trades …

Again, as I have stated for 20+ years now, making The Super Chart the most ACCURATE representation of the music scene at the time, factoring in ALL of the data collected by all three major trades and then publishing the REAL rankings of where these songs fell in the mix of any given week. (kk)

From Harvey Kubernik ...

Happy Birthday to Bernard Matthew Leadon III, Born July 19, 1947, in Minneapolis, Minnesota 

ByHarvey Kubernik

A founding member of the Flying Burrito Brothers and later the Eagles, Bernie Leadon previously was in the country rock group the Corvettes with Chris Darrow and toured and recorded with Hearts & Flowers, Linda Ronstadt; the Corvettes; and Dillard & Clark. Leadon is a multi-instrumentalist (dobro, guitar, banjo, mandolin, and steel guitar,) owing to his bluegrass music background. 
 
Eagles’ co-founder, multi-instrumentalist and songwriter, Bernie Leadon, never lived in Laurel Canyon but did reside in Beachwood Canyon, below the Hollywood sign, down in the flats.
 
“I also lived on Fountain Ave, down below Sunset Blvd, and then moved to Topanga Canyon as soon as I could, by 1969. I moved to L.A. in August, 1967,” Leadon told me in a 2008 interview for my book, "Canyon of Dreams: The Magic and the Music of Laurel Canyon." 

“Henley and Frey shared an apartment over off Cahuenga, just below  theHollywood Bowl, when I got to know them well in 1971. I don't remember Meisner in Laurel Canyon - seems like he always had a place in the San Fernando Valley, around Studio City.”

The Eagles’ first rehearsal was at Studio Instrument Rentals (S.I.R.), paid for by John Boylan, Linda Ronstadt's producer.

“The Jackson Five were in the next room, and racks of their costumes were in the hallway. This day was when Glenn and Don were trying out Randy and me. I clicked, and that was that. ‘You guys want to be a band?’

“They were not a team yet. Henley only wrote half a song on the first album, with me - ‘Witchy Woman.’  Frey proclaimed Don and I a songwriting team.  Henley's first complete song was ‘Desperado,’ which I still find amazing. He had taken English and composition (writing) in college. So, he must have practiced some - but, damn good song.

“I was in the Flying Burrito Brothers with Gram (Parsons). ‘My Man’ was about him - He died the week after I did an overdub session for him down at Capitol Hollywood studios. I flew to London to start the third Eagles album, and we found out about Gram dying right after we woke up from jet lag in London. I was really bummed out, as Clarence White had also died recently, and I had gone to his funeral with Gram, and we had sung "Farther Along" at the grave site. Now Gram was gone. So, I started the song there.

“Those sessions in London with Glyn Johns didn't result in much - only two complete recordings (but one was the Eagles' first #1 - ‘Best of My Love.’)  I finished it in the studio in L.A. after we changed producers to Bill Szymczyk. Henley suggested a line in the second verse, 'Hickory Wind’ reference.

“‘Bitter Creek’ was the name of an associate of the Dalton Gang, which the "Desperado" album was mostly about. Glenn Frey suggested I write a song about that guy, and so that was the beginning of that song.

The bluegrass songs from the Eagles’ repertoire, “"Twenty-One," "Doolin' Dalton" and "Saturday Night" showcased Leadon's skills and abilities on the banjo.

“I was a pretty good banjo player, as I had mainly done that instead of going to school after I was 15. The band liked it, and supported using that tool.”  
I remember several years ago going to see The History of the Eagles Tour ... and Bernie Leadon was a special guest, brought out on stage early in the set as the band ran through their history chronologically.  It sure changed their sound up on stage that night!
I personally didn't care for the first two Eagles albums, other than a few assorted tracks.  For me, the band didn't kick into high gear until the "On The Border" album ... and then they just kept getting better and better from there ... but Leadon was a key element into their "country rock" roots.  (I think a lot of that came from playing with Linda Ronstadt for so long.)  kk 
 
We've been telling you about the upcoming Monkees convention to be held in North Haven, CT, from September 4th - September 6th.
Now comes word that to coincide with the date of The Monkees' 60th Anniversary, a new brand Monkees book is being released with a book launch at the convention.
Here are all the details from Charles Rosenay! 
 

THE MONKEES COMIC BOOK BOOK TO BE RELEASED ON THE MONKEES’ 60th ANNIVERSARY

 

“Here we come …

Hey Hey! It’s The Monkees!” 

2026 marks the 60th anniversary of The Monkees’ first television episode, which aired on NBC TV September 12, 1966. With The Beatles growing up musically and socially, pop music and pop culture was ripe for a new musical force with personality, and some very astute producers created an entertainment entity based around four actors and musicians: Micky Dolenz, Davy Jones, Mike Nesmith, and Peter Tork. Like any network sitcom or AM radio hit band, the story should’ve ended there, right? Not even close. The songs were too good, the members of the band were too talented and charismatic, and the fan base was too large. Not only didn’t it end there, but the four members continued on as a true band, touring, recording, and winning over new generations of fans. Their legend lives on as new releases come out, and lead singer Micky Dolenz is enjoying another successful national tour.

Not unlike The Beatles, Monkeemania saw the band members gracing the covers of all the teen magazines, with endless merchandise. Out of print and out of circulation for more than half a century, The Monkees’ comic books were iconic pop-culture gems that graced newsstands during the silver age of comics. Alongside classic titles of Superman, Spiderman, and the rest of the DC and Marvel Universes, the Monkees comic books presented readers with the energy and joyous personalities of the foursome, while capturing their likeness and zaniness. At three stories per comic, and at twelve cents a copy, the comics were true treasures for Monkees fans and collectors, each issue delivering the fun, innocence, and good times of the era. However, they have been out of print for nearly six decades and are very scarce.

Other books have been written about the history of The Monkees, and other works have analyzed their sustained popularity, but this book takes one aspect of their history, and depicts the fans' love of their phenomena.

THE MONKEES COMIC BOOK BOOK Reference Book and Price Guide from authors Mark Arnold and Charles F. Rosenay!!!, examines the 17 editions, 16 of which were completely original, and one of which was a reprint. Seventeen celebrities, including a few Monkee superfans and archivists, analyzed and shared their opinions on either specific comic editions, or on The Monkees in general. Included in the list of celebrity contributors are: Butch Patrick, best known as television’s “Eddie Munster,” who appeared in one of the Monkees’ TV episodes; musician/composer (and Monkees songwriter/musical director) Bobby Hart of “Boyce & Hart,” who just recently passed away; Monkees producer Chip Douglas; child actor/singer Paul Peterson; actress Valerie Kairys Venet, who appeared in more Monkees episodes than anyone aside from the Monkees themselves; musician/composer Bill Chadwick, whom many considered to be the “5th Monkee;” actress/singer Deana Martin (Dean Martin’s daughter), who appeared in a Monkees TV episode; child actor Jon (“Lassie”) Provost; film and media maven Jerry Beck; Victor Willis, lead singer of the Village People, who also recently passed away; Monkees author and expert Ed Reilly; and others. 

Another dozen notables – from famed DJ Cousin Brucie to rocker Suzi Quatro to rapper Darryl McDaniels (Run DMC) to MTV’s Martha Quinn to musician Thomas Dolby – offer further commentary on the success and unique musical history of The Monkees.

Along with the chapters, readers will not only view examples of how the original comics appeared when they came out from 1966 through 1968, but what they look like now with today's state-of-the-art digitized remastering. The book will also feature unpublished sample master sheets of art, a timeline of the band, an original Monkees comic page designed exclusively for the book, plus a never-before-published interview with the late artist Jose Delbo, who illustrated these treasured Monkees comic books in the mid-sixties. There is a comprehensive index, complete price guide, and a Foreword by a Monkees’ friend and contemporary, singer Peter Noone of Herman’s Hermits.

Authors Mark Arnold (Long Title: Looking for the Good Times; Examining the Monkees Songs, One by One and Headquartered: A Timeline of The Monkees Solo Years) and Charles F. Rosenay!!! (The Book of Top 10 Beatles Lists and The Book of Top 10 Horror Lists) have collaborated again to cover the music and memories of The Monkees in this deluxe release. The two authors previously collaborated on another music book, Not Just Happy Together: The Turtles A-Z (AM Radio to Zappa).

A must for Monkees aficionados, pop-culture collectors, and comic book appreciators, THE MONKEES COMIC BOOK BOOK Reference Book and Price Guide, will be enjoyed by fans worldwide. Published by Genius Books, it will be a treat for both first-generation Monkeephiles as well as newer fans who are discovering what the hoopla was all about. 

The 320-page deluxe release will be available from Amazon on the exact date of The Monkees’ anniversary, September 12, 2026.

Open the doors to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame and to your library to add this book. This Monkees compendium is as unique as The Monkees themselves.

This sound awesome!  Can't wait to see a copy!  (kk) 

 

From Timmy …

THRIFT SHOP APPAREL OF THE DAY

 Oh man, that shirt's a gas!!!